Top 100 -- 1973 Style

[fishfanmiami]

In 72 we had 10 All pro selections including those two. Talk about the good old days. Those teams dominated both sides of the ball.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

You forgot Bob Kuechenberg & Bill Stanfill, both of whom would not have been left off that list as well.

Excellent pickup. Man, I'm even starting to forget some players on that team. Talent galore and great coaching. Do miss those times, but fun to watch the building process now. I feel we may finally have the right leadership so I'm optimistic.

 

[Valandui]

In all honesty, you'd probably have to put Earl Morrall in before Bob Griese.

 

[cowboy82nd]

]Looks like Kiick may have screwed up from the look Shula and Griese were giving him[/B]. His buddy Czonka always had his back.

If it were pictures of jubulent Dolphins beating your team would you still have posted ????

I think not

I checked the box score. The 4 and 7 Jets upset the 8 and 3 Fins thanks to Namath's 45 yd TD passe to Rich Caster late in the fourth quarter for the come from behind victory.You got us that day my friend.

The game hasn't even started yet. Look how clean the unin's are.

 

[BlueFin]

In all honesty, you'd probably have to put Earl Morrall in before Bob Griese.

No.............I swear Bob Griese is the most under appreciated player in Dolphin history.

8 time pro bowler....Jim Thorpe Trophy as NFL MVP in 1971....Bet Bell Award as NFL MVP in 1977....Three consecutive Superbowls and back to back championships....and this guy gets no respect from younger Dolphin fans.

I remember Terry Bradshaw stating in an interview in the late 70's that Griese was the best in the league.

Yes....he got his leg broken in week 6 of the undefeated season...and yes Earl Morrall did a fine job filling in...but in the AFC Championship game in three rivers against the Steel curtain and the team that would eventually succeed our early 70's Dolphins as the supreme team in the NFL....Morrall was not getting it done in the first half......Griese returned in the second half at Shula's call and led us to a victory and on to Superbowl 7 and the finished the undefeated season.

Lets give the man the respect he is due as the only QB in Dolphin history to win not only 1 World championship....but yes....2 world championships.

Don't forget....Griese called his own plays...Even Marino didn't do that...the man was a great field general!

 

[fishfanmiami]

The game hasn't even started yet. Look how clean the unin's are.

Maybe Kiick showed up for the game drunk. Shula and Griese are giving him the evil eye .

Maybe Shula just told him Mercury was starting. Your right it looks pre game.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

No.............I swear Bob Griese is the most under appreciated player in Dolphin history.

8 time pro bowler....Jim Thorpe Trophy as NFL MVP in 1971....Bet Bell Award as NFL MVP in 1977....Three consecutive Superbowls and back to back championships....and this guy gets no respect from younger Dolphin fans.

I remember Terry Bradshaw stating in an interview in the late 70's that Griese was the best in the league.

Yes....he got his leg broken in week 6 of the undefeated season...and yes Earl Morrall did a fine job filling in...but in the AFC Championship game in three rivers against the Steel curtain and the team that would eventually succeed our early 70's Dolphins as the supreme team in the NFL....Morrall was not getting it done in the first half......Griese returned in the second half at Shula's call and led us to a victory and on to Superbowl 7 and the finished the undefeated season.

Lets give the man the respect he is due as the only QB in Dolphin history to win not only 1 World championship....but yes....2 world championships.

Don't forget....Griese called his own plays...Even Marino didn't do that...the man was a great field general!

I never felt like Bob Griese was underrated in the 70's as he was talked about alongside the great qb's of the time like Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton. He was the ultimate winner, a guy that was unselfish and knew his stats didn't matter much if the team could run the ball all day long. He knew his role with those early 70's teams and played it to perfection. I think as time goes by, people who didn't see some of these great players from the 70's look at the stats and kind of dismiss guys. Heck, a 3,000 yard passing season used to be a nice showing for at qb. Now, that's about half a season's worth of numbers. It's just a different game. But, I do think Griese got his due when he played and he's in the Hall of Fame so obviously enough people knew his value.

 

[BlueFin]

I never felt like Bob Griese was underrated in the 70's as he was talked about alongside the great qb's of the time like Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkenton. He was the ultimate winner, a guy that was unselfish and knew his stats didn't matter much if the team could run the ball all day long. He knew his role with those early 70's teams and played it to perfection. I think as time goes by, people who didn't see some of these great players from the 70's look at the stats and kind of dismiss guys. Heck, a 3,000 yard passing season used to be a nice showing for at qb. Now, that's about half a season's worth of numbers. It's just a different game. But, I do think Griese got his due when he played and he's in the Hall of Fame so obviously enough people knew his value.

Oh I realize he was appreciated at the time, I'm old enough to remember the 70's.

My point was not that, it more to average Dolfan of today, and their lack of respect for what Bob Griese brought to this organization.

Yes it was a different game, in large part due to rules changes. It's not even the same game it was when Marino was in his prime in the 80's. Thats another subject, I see Marino's incredible numbers and amazing 84' season getting less and less respect as times goes by, since they altered the rules so in favor of the passing game so much that 48 touchdowns and 5000 yards passing went from being seemingly unreachable to nothing quite so special anymore.


The most obvious example was the way Manning and Brady both broke Marino's long standing record in back to back seasons right after some major tweaks to pass interference rules.


Here is a couple of players that understand and appreciate these changes and what they have meant, and yet many younger fans who never saw Marino play in his prime don't understand it, maybe Dan will begin to understand a little of the disrespect Griese has endured.

"The single greatest season a quarterback ever had was that 1984 season Dan Marino (had) with 5,084 passing yards and 48 touchdowns,'' CBS analyst Boomer Esiason said.
"The reason I say that is because of the way they played pass defense back then. There was legal hand-to-hand combat down the field between receivers and defensive backs. There weren't illegal contact calls all the time and defensive holding in the secondary where you get to re-do it on first down like we do in this era."
Which begs the question — WWMD? What would Marino do if he played in this age of less-restricted air space?
NFL Network analyst Heath Evans grew up a Dolphins fan in Palm Beach, Fla., during Marino's heyday.
"Dan did it when it was a run-happy league,'' the former Patriots and Saints fullback said. "If Dan was playing in this pass-happy age, he might have thrown for 6,500 yards.
"Dan is the greatest arm that ever played. Period. You let Dan Marino play in this day and age, the way these wide receivers can run with no fear whatsoever of getting hit going across the middle? Shoot, Dan might have been able to throw for 7,000 yards.''

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Oh I realize he was appreciated at the time, I'm old enough to remember the 70's.

My point was not that, it more to average Dolfan of today, and their lack of respect for what Bob Griese brought to this organization.

Yes it was a different game, in large part due to rules changes. It's not even the same game it was when Marino was in his prime in the 80's. Thats another subject, I see Marino's incredible numbers and amazing 84' season getting less and less respect as times goes by, since they altered the rules so in favor of the passing game so much that 48 touchdowns and 5000 yards passing went from being seemingly unreachable to nothing quite so special anymore.


The most obvious example was the way Manning and Brady both broke Marino's long standing record in back to back seasons right after some major tweaks to pass interference rules.


Here is a couple of players that understand and appreciate these changes and what they have meant, and yet many younger fans who never saw Marino play in his prime don't understand it, maybe Dan will begin to understand a little of the disrespect Griese has endured.

I hear you. My dad talks a lot about the 1958 Colts, but even if I scour through all the film I can find of that team, there's nothing like seeing it in person, live, for yourself. That's why it's hard to take media that are 30 year-old very seriously when they are talking about the past. You had to live it. As to Dan Marino, I think 6,000 yards would be possible with today's rules. I can't believe how easily receivers get open now. I know part of it is simply because there are a lot of talented wide receivers in the league -- more than at any time I can remember -- but the defensive backs really can't do too much anymore. All the rule changes over the past 30 years have benefitted the passing game, which is why it makes sense to find personnel to take advantage of that.

 

[BlueFin]

I hear you. My dad talks a lot about the 1958 Colts, but even if I scour through all the film I can find of that team, there's nothing like seeing it in person, live, for yourself. That's why it's hard to take media that are 30 year-old very seriously when they are talking about the past. You had to live it. As to Dan Marino, I think 6,000 yards would be possible with today's rules. I can't believe how easily receivers get open now. I know part of it is simply because there are a lot of talented wide receivers in the league -- more than at any time I can remember -- but the defensive backs really can't do too much anymore. All the rule changes over the past 30 years have benefitted the passing game, which is why it makes sense to find personnel to take advantage of that.

Totally agree, and why drafting a talented kid like Ryan Tannehill makes so much sense.

 

[BlueFin]

In all honesty, you'd probably have to put Earl Morrall in before Bob Griese.

Also....this thread is about top 100 1973.......Earl Morrall did not play in 1973, so therefore could not have been a top 100 guy.

Bob Griese led the Dolphins to a 15-2 record, their 3rd consecutive Superbowl, and 2nd consecutive world championship in Superbowl 8 over Fran Tarkenton and the "Purple People Eaters".

 

[jfleag61]

Thanks, Junk!..love the pics. I really loved watching those games from Shea on tv....you could hardly hear the play by play whenever a jet would fly over!!