Top 32 big board

[Tannenbombs]

TOP 32 BIG BOARD


#1. DT Leonard Williams
#2. DE Randy Gregory Nebraska
#3. RB Todd Gurley Georgia
#4. WR Dorial Green-Beckham Oklahoma/Missouri
#5. LT TJ Clemmings Pittsburgh
#6. WR Kevin White West Virginia
#7. RB Melvin Gordon Wisconsin
#8. CB Trae Waynes Michigan State
#9. WR Amari Cooper Alabama
#10. QB Jameis Winston Florida State
#11. RT Jake Fisher Oregon
#12. NT Danny Shelton Washington
#13. DE Vic Beasley Clemson
#14.OG Brandon Scherff Iowa
#15. SS Landon Collins Alabama
#16. DE Shane Ray Missouri
#17. TE Maxx Williams Minnesota
#18. LB Eric Kendricks UCLA
#19. DE/DT Arik Armstead Oregon
#20. WR Sammie Coates Auburn
#21. LT Andrus Peat Stanford
#22. DT Malcom Brown Texas
#23. DE Preston Smith Mississippi State
#24. WR DeVante Parker Louisville
#25. OG La’el Collins LSU
#26. DE Bud Dupree Kentucky
#27. WR Devin Smith Ohio State
#28. CB Marcus Peters Washington
#29. DE Dante Fowler Florida
#30. DT Carl Davis Iowa
#31. DT Eddie Goldman Florida State
#32. LT Cedric Ogbuehi Texas A&M

 

[Austin Tatious]

I'm with you on Green-Beckham but we may be in the minority on that one.

There's some good talent in the bottom part of round one you have listed there. Carl Davis is a stud.

 

[BlueFin]

I guess I'm in that minority too....I think DGB will be a stud in the NFL.

I think we'll look back after we pass on him....watch him tearing it up with the Patriots or Jets....and will be wondering why we can't seem to find that big dominant receiver?


Randy Moss....Dez Bryant......DGB

 

[Tannenbombs]

I'm not for Dorial Green-Beckham, but strictly off grading his tape, he can be the best WR in pro football.

 

[Liphinphan]

I guess I'm in that minority too....I think DGB will be a stud in the NFL.

I think we'll look back after we pass on him....watch him tearing it up with the Patriots or Jets....and will be wondering why we can't seem to find that big dominant receiver?


Randy Moss....Dez Bryant......DGB

Whats the point of drafting a Josh Gordon talent/problem if he is not on the field to help. No dismissing the talent. There is no dismissing the high chance of problems also.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

I like that you aren't afraid of your opinions. On tape DGB looks awesome. Obviously, it's doubtful that he goes that high based on character concerns. I think NFL teams will always take chances on talented players with some issues, but with the league cracking down on some things those type of players will continue to drop. Agree with where you have Todd Gurley as well.

I like where you have Maxx Williams. He really stands out to me to the point where I mocked him to Miami at #14 in my recent "effort." Surprised you have DaVante Parker so low. Jake Fisher at #11 is also a surprise as I haven't seen him mocked that high. That's a very difficult position for me personally to evaluate, but he does seem like a nice fit for Miami. Kind of see him more as a 2nd rounder, but I could be wrong there.

Question: do you think Miami would consider Sammy Coates at #14? Let's say that the team either releases or trades Mike Wallace, do they then consider Coates if Kevin White and DaVante Parker are off the board? I love his upside, his speed and physicality but understand he needs work on the nuances of the position (route running etc.)

 

[I am Bane]

I like that you aren't afraid of your opinions. On tape DGB looks awesome. Obviously, it's doubtful that he goes that high based on character concerns. I think NFL teams will always take chances on talented players with some issues, but with the league cracking down on some things those type of players will continue to drop. Agree with where you have Todd Gurley as well.

I like where you have Maxx Williams. He really stands out to me to the point where I mocked him to Miami at #14 in my recent "effort." Surprised you have DaVante Parker so low. Jake Fisher at #11 is also a surprise as I haven't seen him mocked that high. That's a very difficult position for me personally to evaluate, but he does seem like a nice fit for Miami. Kind of see him more as a 2nd rounder, but I could be wrong there.

Question: do you think Miami would consider Sammy Coates at #14? Let's say that the team either releases or trades Mike Wallace, do they then consider Coates if Kevin White and DaVante Parker are off the board? I love his upside, his speed and physicality but understand he needs work on the nuances of the position (route running etc.)

Maxx Williams is going to be great I think in the NFL!!!

Sammy Coates I wouldnt draft at #14... I think he is more of a hit or miss big play maker in the NFL, nothing to rely on. His hands are not good, and he needs work on route running. I've brought up Martavius Bryant as a Pitt WR, could Sammy Coates be like that? But its your call if you want that type of production from a #14 pick.

Devante Parker, I have liked less on over time watching his film. He has nice footwork and hands, but doesnt cause separation consistently as he rounds out his routes, not good in and out of breaks. He also has size but doesnt use it in any way... doesn't run aggressive routes or use his body to shield well. Deep separation is a big issue as well with him.

 

[BlueFin]

Whats the point of drafting a Josh Gordon talent/problem if he is not on the field to help. No dismissing the talent. There is no dismissing the high chance of problems also.

They said that about Moss & Bryant too.

Most of the time these kids mature and grow up.

 

[jlfin]

They said that about Moss & Bryant too.

Most of the time these kids mature and grow up.

And if the Phins were to draft him and he ends up suspended, will you be one of those with the pitchforks piling on the FO and Philbin for wasting a top pick on a guy that had red flags.

 

[xXwarXx]

Davantae Parker at 24?

That's crazy to me, easily could be the best WR in this draft, Josh Gordon clone IMO.

And Maxx at 17, I still dont even see him as a 1st rnd pick tbh.

La'El deserves to be much higher IMO.

Coates in the first rnd, I feel bad for the team that makes that decision.

Clemmings at 5 is very risky, too inconsistent for that position.

Ray out of the top 10 def won't happen.

Also not seeing the hype with Landon Collins.

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They said that about Moss & Bryant too.

Most of the time these kids mature and grow up.

Thats hardly true.

Give an immature kid, freedom, fame, money, and Miami night life, 99% chance they don't mature.

 

[datruth55]

They said that about Moss & Bryant too.

Most of the time these kids mature and grow up.

Randy Moss had plenty of maturity issues. You think he gets traded from Minnesota if he didn't? You think in today's NFL Randy Moss wouldn't have been suspended?

Dez Bryant is playing for the team he grew up rooting for...that's a little extra motivation to stay in Dallas. Jerry Jones also assigned a security detail on him to make sure he didn't get in trouble and I think he still got in a little trouble partying with his "bodyguard" lol. Dez still has moments of immaturity on the field though but at least off the field he's been clean so far...for the most part.

DGB is a different case. He was the #1 overall recruit in his class going into college...he's always had everyone looking up at him and holding him up on a pedestal. He probably got away with a lot of stuff before they finally kicked him off the team. Something tells me he's not going to mature in Miami...much like Vontae Davis never did until he left. From his tape at Missouri...I see great athlete....extremely raw football player...extremely raw. There's a chance he turns into another Corderelle Patterson to me...never learns to run routes, never learns to read NFL defenses. That's not a risk Miami can take....we have almost an entire draft class from 2013 with the issue of never becoming much of anything.

 

[silver McNibblets]

I'd have Winston higher

Like seeing Kendricks this high.. I think he's by far the top linebacker prospect in this years class... phenomenal instincts

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

I'd have Winston higher

Like seeing Kendricks this high.. I think he's by far the top linebacker prospect in this years class... phenomenal instincts

I would target Kendricks with a slight trade down. To be honest, I wouldn't mind him at #14 either. That's assuming Miami gets a run stuffing DT in free agency. If not, then I think the Dolphins have to get that guy in R1 and hope that Perryman is there in R2.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

Maxx Williams is going to be great I think in the NFL!!!

Sammy Coates I wouldnt draft at #14... I think he is more of a hit or miss big play maker in the NFL, nothing to rely on. His hands are not good, and he needs work on route running. I've brought up Martavius Bryant as a Pitt WR, could Sammy Coates be like that? But its your call if you want that type of production from a #14 pick.

Devante Parker, I have liked less on over time watching his film. He has nice footwork and hands, but doesnt cause separation consistently as he rounds out his routes, not good in and out of breaks. He also has size but doesnt use it in any way... doesn't run aggressive routes or use his body to shield well. Deep separation is a big issue as well with him.

Interestingly, someone compared Coates to a more athletic Chris Chambers. I loved Chambers at his best, but he could also disappoint quite often with drops. Would rather have the more reliable guy --- those GB Packer type receivers.

 

[I am Bane]

Interestingly, someone compared Coates to a more athletic Chris Chambers. I loved Chambers at his best, but he could also disappoint quite often with drops. Would rather have the more reliable guy --- those GB Packer type receivers.

Chambers... not bad... both have great speed and size. Chambers though ran routes much better than Coates... and taboot to that is Coates really only ran streaks and short crossing routes in his career basically. Chambers did drop some as you said, but I think Coates would drop more... he really fights the ball. Chambers could separate though from what I am remembering... yes/no??? Coates struggles separating due to not good footwork in and out of breaks, poor route running. Coates has a couple more inches on Chambers though too which is nice.