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Top 50 CBs in 2008

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hey guys.. just wanna share this article. I don't know if this was posted before but here it is..

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=322572

Jabari Greer (UFA) - ranked 23

Will Allen - ranked 46

Andre Goodman (UFA)- ranked 31

Bryant Mcfadden (UFA)- ranked 24

Kevin Dockery (RFA) - ranked 30

Chris Johnson (UFA) - ranked 6 -- who is this guy??

Kelvin Hayden (UFA) - ranked 12
 
I've never heard of that site and it looks to me to be as accurate as the local weather report here (which is never right). No Champ Bailey or Cromartie in the top 10? Not even a Asante Samual?
 
I've never heard of that site and it looks to me to be as accurate as the local weather report here (which is never right). No Champ Bailey or Cromartie in the top 10? Not even a Asante Samual?
That is not the real site where the article came from. The article was written by Tony Pisano of Owner's edge and you have to pay to read their articles..

see

http://ownersedge.fanball.com/article/2009/1/Wide-Receiver-Case-Study-11

as for bailey and cromartie

Five Big names left off the list

Antonio Cromartie, San Diego Chargers
Season Totals: 88 attempts, 11.14 YPA, 13.64 Forced INC%, 4 TDs, 2 INTs

My two cents: And the award for worst starting CB in the NFL goes too… Antonio Cromartie! Cromartie had the worst YPA of any CB with at least 45 attempts, and had the lowest forced incompletion percentage of any CB in the league. Only one CB gave up over 825 yards this season, and that was Cromartie with 980 yards allowed. I think people knew he had a bad season, but I don’t think people understand just how bad it was.

Nate Clements, San Francisco 49ers
Season Totals: 96 attempts, 8.19 YPA, 26.04 Forced INC%, 7 TDs, 2 INTs

My two cents: Not only did Clements have horrible numbers, but he was also second in the league with 17 unforced incompletions. Clements was one TD allowed away from the league lead and only managed two INTs in 96 attempts. Clements has not lived up to the ridiculous contract the 49ers gave him a couple years before. Clements is actually a good CB in short coverage, but is horrible just about everywhere else. If the 49ers can get an actual pass rush Clements could be an average CB.

Ronde Barber, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Season Totals: 71 attempts, 10.48 YPA, 19.72 Forced INC%, 6 TDs, 4 INTs

My two cents: Ronde Barber has been one of the better CBs in the league for years, but that seems to be over. Barber had some of the worst numbers in the league this season and should have lost his starting job to rookie Aqib Talib. A double-digit YPA and a forced incompletion percentage under 20 is bad enough to not earn a roster spot.

Champ Bailey, Denver Broncos
Season Totals: 20 attempts, 10.75 YPA, 30.00 Forced INC%, 1 TD, 1 INT

My two cents: Champ Bailey missed seven games in the middle of the season and returned for the Broncos final two games. He probably should have just called it a year and not returned against the Bills and Chargers. Bailey was thrown at six times, gave up six completions, and 109 yards in the last two games (both losses). Bailey was only thrown at 20 times this season and is still one of the better CBs in the league despite his horrible finish.

Charles Tillman, Chicago Bears
Season Totals: 110 attempts, 7.15 YPA, 22.73 Forced INC%, 2 TDs, 3 INTs

My two cents: Despite missing a game Tillman was still thrown at more than any other CB in the league. It’s hard to judge CBs who play mostly zone, but it was clear Tillman didn’t have the year he is capable of. His 25 forced incompletion in 110 attempts is unacceptable. He allowed a league leading 69 receptions and also benefited from 16 unforced incompletions. Tillman hit a new low in a game against Minnesota where he was targeted six times, gave up five catches, 137 yards, and a TD.
 
Thanks for the link but I can't see myself paying for his opinion. BTW Samual outplayed any of his top 10 mentioned or not metioned on that list last year. He also ranked Richard Marshall ahead of Gamble and Lucas of the Panthers which is pathetic.
 
Thanks for the link but I can't see myself paying for his opinion. BTW Samual outplayed any of his top 10 mentioned or not metioned on that list last year. He also ranked Richard Marshall ahead of Gamble and Lucas of the Panthers which ius pathetic.
Richard Marshall is better then Gamble or Lucas. No doubt about it.
 
Richard Marshall is better then Gamble or Lucas. No doubt about it.
:( I watch Carolina every week and no he isn't. That is why Gamble and Lucas start over him. :foundout:You can go pay for this crack heads opinion, but I watch football myself and he is just god awful in his evaluating.
 
Top 50? Isnt that like all but 12 starting CB's? Wow what an elite list they got there. Thats like saying top 25 place kickers. If you dont make it you suck.
 
hey guys.. just wanna share this article. I don't know if this was posted before but here it is..

http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=322572

Jabari Greer (UFA) - ranked 23

Will Allen - ranked 46

Andre Goodman (UFA)- ranked 31

Bryant Mcfadden (UFA)- ranked 24

Kevin Dockery (RFA) - ranked 30

Chris Johnson (UFA) - ranked 6 -- who is this guy??

Kelvin Hayden (UFA) - ranked 12


Goodman did well for us in 08, would love to see him back in 09.
 
Thanks for the link but I can't see myself paying for his opinion. BTW Samual outplayed any of his top 10 mentioned or not metioned on that list last year. He also ranked Richard Marshall ahead of Gamble and Lucas of the Panthers which is pathetic.


All this guy is doing is going by the numbers, what exactly are you going by? Your opinion?
 
I don't like analysis like this that just looks as a few numbers and draws conclusions from them. It's almost like ranking the top 32 Long snappers based off the opposing team's starting field positioning.
 
Hayden and McFadden are two guys that I really like. Two guys that I can definitely picture Parcells going after.

Hayden won't be resigned due to the cap situation in Indy. McFadden might, but more than likely he'll hit the open market.
 
ypa and forced incompletion % is a very good way to judge a corner

obviously there are intangibles

but the numbers definitely mean something...
 
Champ Or Chump!!!!!

I know he missed significant time but IMHO this proves what I have been saying for years...... CHAMP BAILEY the most overrated DB in years!!! I remember a turd like Jerry Porter just eating him for breakfast on Monday night a few years back or Chambers torching him all day Sabans first year. I'm sick of all the commentators acting like Champ Bailey is the next Rod Woodson...... and notice I said Rod Woodson and not Deion Sanders!!!! Rod Woodson was the complete corner in his hayday who was great against the pass as well as supporting the run... Deion was always afraid to break a nail!!
 
I've never heard of that site and it looks to me to be as accurate as the local weather report here (which is never right). No Champ Bailey or Cromartie in the top 10? Not even a Asante Samual?

They're not making these numbers up. These are the numbers against these cornerbacks. Just because they don't support what you think doesn't mean they aren't real.
 
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