Trade Picks With Lions

[RonnieBrownTown]

Hey do you guys think this would be a smart trade if we did it
Dolphins may be planning to trade with Lions

Posted by [URL="http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreelabout.html"]Bill Emkow[/URL] March 16, 2007 10:35AM


It appears the Miami Dolphins are moving forward with a strategy to replace Daunte Culpepper and Joey Harrington.

March 15, Miami Herald: Although they might be the top two picks in the April draft, the Dolphins are interested in speaking with quarterbacks JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn, and could bring both to South Florida as part of their annual visits of college players.
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The reason the Dolphins want to talk to both players could be telling: They could be considering a scenario where they trade up to the No. 2 overall pick, where Detroit is listening to offers. The interest also shows Miami's uncertainty over the status of Daunte Culpepper and his future with the team.
The Dolphins have the No. 9 pick in the draft, and have two second-round picks.
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I tend to stay out of these speculative trade discussions since there is an almost absolute chance that nothing suggested will come true, but...
If the Dolphins gave the Lions a second and No. 9 overall, I bet that would be good enough for Detroit. That would allow them to get the player they want (Patrick Willis) and pick up another second. If they got both second round picks, it's an absolute no-brainer.
And another thing, doesn't it speak volumes that young, established NFL stars (Willis McGahee, Dre Bly, Tatum Bell, etc) are traded for third-, fourth- and fifth-round draft picks, and guys like JaMarcus Russel are going for a first and possibly two seconds?
Thanks to former MSU shooting guard Chris Hill for taking the time to email me this link. (OK, I don't know if he's actually the former MSU shooting guard.)


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ArtShampsky says...

Come on Bill, a first and a second. It better be more like a definite two second rounders and a first, maybe MORE! That would be ridiculous only to receive a first and second rounder.
Posted on 03/16/07 at 11:35AM

TOMMYZ says...

There is no way the Lions move down 7 spots for just 1 second rounder. Is this Miami Harold writer a Mlive poster?
Posted on 03/16/07 at 12:02PM

littledic says...

fins need a offline no matter whos back there
Posted on 03/16/07 at 8:07PM

littledic says...

fins need offline or who cares whos back there
Posted on 03/16/07 at 8:10PM

PrideLander says...

The comment made about the Lions moving down to the #9 spot for a 2nd round pick is ludicrous. The comment about them moving down to #9 for two 2nd rounds would deserve little more than a smerk.
It is obvious that the person putting forth this conjecture doesn't understand the draft very well! And in this case the acquisition of a franchise QB (be it Brady Quinn or JaMarcus Russell).
The Lions could potentially trade with Cleveland so they can get Quinn but it would cost at least a 2nd round pick and probably even a 5th rounder thrown in. They could then possibly trade with the Cardinals at #5 from #3 for at least another 2nd round pick and possibly more. So for them to go down to #9 from #5 would probably require at least a 2nd and a 3rd rounder--but Quinn would certainly be long gone by that time.
The bottomline is it would require a whole lot more than the phins can afford to move up from #9 to #2.


Posted on 03/16/07 at 10:23PM

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think this is a smart

 

[MrEd]

this is all speculation. and i think it is ridiculous. i would be against it. if this speculation came true...then we would have another losing season....and jason taylor would retire right before training camp.

he already stated that he and zach arent rebuilding. so i dont believe this dumb rumbling one bit.

mueller and cameron already assured both taylor and zach as well as joey porter and re-signed holiday....that they are not rebuilding.

why the heck would they sign porter, traylor, and holiday....assure taylor and zach that they are not rebuilding...and then trade culpepper for a rookie? please. NOT!

 

[MrEd]

...then, didnt DET just draft Ernie Sims? Why the heck would they want Willis???

DET is goint to draft Quinn. We need to stop...

 

[PerfectFinz72]

this is all speculation. and i think it is ridiculous. i would be against it. if this speculation came true...then we would have another losing season....and jason taylor would retire right before training camp.

he already stated that he and zach arent rebuilding. so i dont believe this dumb rumbling one bit.

mueller and cameron already assured both taylor and zach as well as joey porter and re-signed holiday....that they are not rebuilding.

why the heck would they sign porter, traylor, and holiday....assure taylor and zach that they are not rebuilding...and then trade culpepper for a rookie? please. NOT!

At some point we need to draft a QB....enough of this stop gap garbage. The problem with our approach to the QB situation is we're always finding the guy thats the stop gap to the franchise QB. Yet, they never go and get the franchise guy. Just do it already, at some point you have to take a freakin chance regardless of the aging defense. I'd rather take a shot with a young guy than the crap we get year in and out since Dan retired.

 

[wazzy]

I say we trade up and were just making smoke screens to make Oakland more interested in grabbing a QB so we grab Calvin Johnson and hope on Cpep to be fully recovered so we have a solid offense!

But this is all speculation like a lot of trade rumors!

 

[BLITZKRIEG]

At some point we need to draft a QB....enough of this stop gap garbage. The problem with our approach to the QB situation is we're always finding the guy thats the stop gap to the franchise QB. Yet, they never go and get the franchise guy. Just do it already, at some point you have to take a freakin chance regardless of the aging defense. I'd rather take a shot with a young guy than the crap we get year in and out since Dan retired.

Good call. B. Quinn or bust!!!!!!

PHINZ RULE!!!!

 

[paulomac77]

personally i think we should just stay at 9 and take laron landry, impact safetys come along very rarely and he could be the best since ed reed, i know we need help on offense but he would have the best chance to excel of any potential draft choice since he's be playing behind the best linebackers in the league and with JT, the defense could be better than ever if landry turns into a pro bowler

 

[HybridPHIN 23]

personally i think we should just stay at 9 and take laron landry, impact safetys come along very rarely and he could be the best since ed reed, i know we need help on offense but he would have the best chance to excel of any potential draft choice since he's be playing behind the best linebackers in the league and with JT, the defense could be better than ever if landry turns into a pro bowler

landry would give us the flexibility to not resign an almost 30 Y.Bell next year OR move Jason Allen to Corner...... i personally like the idea of Allen and Landry at safety for years to come.

 

[DDTDON]

this is all speculation. and i think it is ridiculous. i would be against it. if this speculation came true...then we would have another losing season....and jason taylor would retire right before training camp.

he already stated that he and zach arent rebuilding. so i dont believe this dumb rumbling one bit.

mueller and cameron already assured both taylor and zach as well as joey porter and re-signed holiday....that they are not rebuilding.

why the heck would they sign porter, traylor, and holiday....assure taylor and zach that they are not rebuilding...and then trade culpepper for a rookie? please. NOT!

Could you please provide a link , if you have one.

 

[Predaphin]

this is all speculation. and i think it is ridiculous. i would be against it. if this speculation came true...then we would have another losing season....and jason taylor would retire right before training camp.

he already stated that he and zach arent rebuilding. so i dont believe this dumb rumbling one bit.

mueller and cameron already assured both taylor and zach as well as joey porter and re-signed holiday....that they are not rebuilding.

why the heck would they sign porter, traylor, and holiday....assure taylor and zach that they are not rebuilding...and then trade culpepper for a rookie? please. NOT!

:goodpost: :yeahthat:

 

[ohiobryan]

iv'e been saying it on dolphins hour with jimmy and barry and sid's show we need to step up to the plate and smack it out of the ballpark and make this trade with the lions i say we give them our first round pick this year and next year and one of our two's this year # 60 from new england for the number 2 overall pick in the draft so we can finally draft our franchise qb brady quinn! but if oakland takes johnson at 1 then we take russell over quinn at 2.

 

[Sean]

If Fins Move Up They Should Get The Best Player In The Draft!!! Calvin Johnson!!!

 

[Enhalo]

iv'e been saying it on dolphins hour with jimmy and barry and sid's show we need to step up to the plate and smack it out of the ballpark and make this trade with the lions i say we give them our first round pick this year and next year and one of our two's this year # 60 from new england for the number 2 overall pick in the draft so we can finally draft our franchise qb brady quinn! but if oakland takes johnson at 1 then we take russell over quinn at 2.

I agree, except for the Russell part. JaMarcus Russell is nothing but an arm. Brady Quinn will be able to come in and lead our offense, and I don't think Russell would be able to. Quinn's a smart guy and he's worth us giving up some picks to ensure that we get him. I would really like us to dangle Culpepper to the Lions and see if we could include him in the trade.

 

[craig]

Im all for getting quinn but if they think stanton is the ticket.then so be it.. but this getting retreads from other teams ,year in and year out ... since dan ... makes me sick, that a pro team cant go for broke and find a qb in the draft... one of those years,when peyton was coming out or i thought highly of rivers but we still stood pat... total horse sh** and im just tired of it. isnt everyone else??????????? cpep sucks by the way!

 

[Enhalo]

Im all for getting quinn but if they think stanton is the ticket.then so be it.. but this getting retreads from other teams ,year in and year out ... since dan ... makes me sick, that a pro team cant go for broke and find a qb in the draft... one of those years,when peyton was coming out or i thought highly of rivers but we still stood pat... total horse sh** and im just tired of it. isnt everyone else??????????? cpep sucks by the way!

Amen (especially to the "culpepper sucks" part" :D)