trading back into 1st round makes no sense to me...

[Danny]

we need a starting guard,starting TE and a WR on offence...on defence we need a starting corner,an ILB and an OLB...if we use our 2 picks in round 2 plus our 3rd on offence we can draft the guard,the TE and the WR....at that time we'd still need that corner,the ILB and the OLB but you'd have to get that from the 4th round on and you still need a 3rd QB....now if we trading into the 1st is gonna cost us our 2 picks in round 2 plus our 3....now you get ONE player and still have a bunch of holes plus no money left after spending all that money on Long and the other ghuy you take in round 1...we're not 1 player away...we need all the 2nd and 3rd round picks we can get...what we don't need is to give those picks away to draft 1 player.

Ozzy rules!!

 

[mroz]

couldnt agree more...

there is no one that I want or think that we need that we should give up draft picks for... we need players

 

[3rdandinches]

we need a starting guard,starting TE and a WR on offence...on defence we need a starting corner,an ILB and an OLB...if we use our 2 picks in round 2 plus our 3rd on offence we can draft the guard,the TE and the WR....at that time we'd still need that corner,the ILB and the OLB but you'd have to get that from the 4th round on and you still need a 3rd QB....now if we trading into the 1st is gonna cost us our 2 picks in round 2 plus our 3....now you get ONE player and still have a bunch of holes plus no money left after spending all that money on Long and the other ghuy you take in round 1...we're not 1 player away...we need all the 2nd and 3rd round picks we can get...what we don't need is to give those picks away to draft 1 player.

Ozzy rules!!

The only thing that makes sense is if we trade JT and get a late 1st round
pick because of it. I actually would prefer if JT had to be traded to get a 2nd and 3rd for greater depth and chance of hitting big on another player.

 

[Myles Fynch]

If we can't trade JT then the cost of moving back up is probably prohibitive. But I don't think it would take a pair of deuces and a #3 to get in the mid to late first round. If it did you could say "no thanks."

Don't forget that #32 would have been a #1 any other year that the Pats weren't caught cheating, so if that was included you're only talking about moving up about ten spots or so.

 

[Dolfan1000]

There is no way we move up. Just no way.

 

[swa is funky]

we need a starting guard,starting TE and a WR on offence...on defence we need a starting corner,an ILB and an OLB...if we use our 2 picks in round 2 plus our 3rd on offence we can draft the guard,the TE and the WR....!!

the key word you said is we need a "starting" guard, TE, WR etc.

yeah we can draft players at those positions at any point, but if management doesnt feel they can be starters, then it would make sense to trade up


id rather trade up to get one starter, then stay put and get two backups...

 

[Myles Fynch]

the key word you said is we need a "starting" guard, TE, WR etc.

yeah we can draft players at those positions at any point, but if management doesnt feel they can be starters, then it would make sense to trade up

id rather trade up to get one starter, then stay put and get two backups...

Excellent points. Or to look at it another way, if you are looking for starters, can the guy you watched fall down to your pick beat the guy you could have traded up to get?

 

[phintim]

The only thing that makes sense is if we trade JT and get a late 1st round
pick because of it. I actually would prefer if JT had to be traded to get a 2nd and 3rd for greater depth and chance of hitting big on another player.

I agree with you and in reality I think Ireland talking about trading up may be a bit of a smoke screen to trade down or get the player that they want at 2A. Ireland mentions Flacco whom they have not had in for try outs like Hennie form Michigan or Groves from Auburn. So if Ireland can get a team to bite on a player we really do not want thats one less pick to worry about a player the Dolphins really want going to another team.

 

[thomasdan15]

It's kind of senseless to worry about trading up until we see what players are sliding. If somebody is dropping that's high on our draft board I'm sure they'll go after him. Parcells likes to move around during the draft.

 

[hemidemon]

We really don't need a ton of draft picks. BP and Ireland said they would have their board down to the players they really want. It's not a board full of names. Besides it won't cost as much as you think to move up. If we do move up it will only be a couple of spots. That will not cost us two 2nd round picks and our #3. The draft is not the only place to get players. There is still FA. June 1 teams will cut players for salery cap reasons.

 

[FinFanatic80]

We really don't need a ton of draft picks. BP and Ireland said they would have their board down to the players they really want. It's not a board full of names. Besides it won't cost as much as you think to move up. If we do move up it will only be a couple of spots. That will not cost us two 2nd round picks and our #3. The draft is not the only place to get players. There is still FA. June 1 teams will cut players for salery cap reasons.

Maybe the stupidest quote i've ever read on these boards.

 

[Kdawg954]

the key word you said is we need a "starting" guard, TE, WR etc.

yeah we can draft players at those positions at any point, but if management doesnt feel they can be starters, then it would make sense to trade up


id rather trade up to get one starter, then stay put and get two backups...

Bad philosophy to have simply because there is NO guarantee no matter where u pick . . . the only thing we know is that:

2 picks gives you double the chance on landing on a guy instead of 1.

U can't possibly think having the #22 pick is better than having lets say #57 and #64 . . . especially on a team that just needs young talent infused from all angles. The Dolphins need to compile as many 1 - 4 round picks as they can . . . as ALL have chances to eventually become starters.

 

[burger13]

it all comes down to how strongly they feel about a player. if they value 1 guy that much more than everyone else, then it might make sense. If you have 1 player who you see pro bowl potential in.....and there is really no one else in the draft that you think will have the impact that he will, why wouldn't you. they may see a player who fits their scheme perfectly, and think he would solidify a position for the next decade, and feel that getting him is worth trading away a guy who they might see as a stopgap type.

as a fan, I hope they don't....because I realize the fact that no matter how strongly they feel about certain players, some are going to bust. so I would rather play the odds and have 2 chances of getting a good player as opposed to 1.

 

[Kdawg954]

You can't think like that because then you'd be saying you'd trade the #1 overall pick for a 3rd and two 4th rounders. Just to get more bodies.

Our staff would get fired on the spot if that happened.

You can't do that, you have to draw the line somehwhere and it's all about "value".

True, but everyone knows top 5 is usually the ELITE talents . . . that is why they are SO valued on the draft chart.

But once you get out of the top 10 . .. and the top 20 . . . its closer to a crap shoot . . . and for a young rebuilding team . . . 2 late second round picks is probably better than one late first rounder. Especially in a deep draft like this one.

 

[swa is funky]

Bad philosophy to have simply because there is NO guarantee no matter where u pick . . . the only thing we know is that:

2 picks gives you double the chance on landing on a guy instead of 1.

U can't possibly think having the #22 pick is better than having lets say #57 and #64 . . . especially on a team that just needs young talent infused from all angles. The Dolphins need to compile as many 1 - 4 round picks as they can . . . as ALL have chances to eventually become starters.

yeah its obviously not a guarantee, but it all depends on the players available and how much it costs to trade up

you need to be flexible either way, you cant say you definately would trade up, and you cant say you definately wouldnt.....