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Troy Aikman doesn't like WC either

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If you were playing today, how would you feel about losing 6-8 snaps a game to a wildcat offense?

Troy: I'm not a big believer in the wildcat.

There is still a debate whether it is a fad or whether it will be here a while. To be good at anything, you have to spend a fair amount of time practicing it. But to take snaps away from your base offense during the week in order to work on the wildcat, I believe is counter-productive.

I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the wildcat has been less effective this year than it was a year ago when the Dolphins introduced it to the league in the third week of the season. My best case in point is that Indianapolis does not have a wildcat package in its offense, and for good reason. Why would you take any snaps away from Peyton Manning? I don't believe we'll be talking much about the wildcat two years from now.

Now, some have said that the wishbone offense was a wildcat; that you could say it was a gimmick offense that lasted a while, but that's not necessarily true. Teams that ran the wishbone ran it every play. Miami is the only team where it has been truly successful, but they did it out of necessity because they couldn't effectively run the ball from their base offense — and that is my point.


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Comments like these are only going to piss the offense off. And that's a good thing, because in a league of such parity disrespect is a tremendous motivator.

By the time people actually start to realize that it utilizes the exact same blocking patterns of the running plays out of our base offense -- only with one extra guy to help block -- we'll have shoved it down the throat of every team on our schedule.

Now if only someone would call out Bell and Wilson, maybe we'd have some good play out of our secondary, too.
 
If we had Peyton Manning, we wouldn't need the wildcat either.

For teams who could use a huge boost in their run games and open up the passing game, the wildcat does a good job.
 
Keep the doubts coming - good motivational tool when the well is about run dry and I don't thik we are close to dry at this point but in weeks 15-16 who knows...
 
kellyh3034 said:
If you were playing today, how would you feel about losing 6-8 snaps a game to a wildcat offense?

Troy: I'm not a big believer in the wildcat.

There is still a debate whether it is a fad or whether it will be here a while. To be good at anything, you have to spend a fair amount of time practicing it. But to take snaps away from your base offense during the week in order to work on the wildcat, I believe is counter-productive.

I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the wildcat has been less effective this year than it was a year ago when the Dolphins introduced it to the league in the third week of the season. My best case in point is that Indianapolis does not have a wildcat package in its offense, and for good reason. Why would you take any snaps away from Peyton Manning? I don't believe we'll be talking much about the wildcat two years from now.

Now, some have said that the wishbone offense was a wildcat; that you could say it was a gimmick offense that lasted a while, but that's not necessarily true. Teams that ran the wishbone ran it every play. Miami is the only team where it has been truly successful, but they did it out of necessity because they couldn't effectively run the ball from their base offense — and that is my point.


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It make take away time practiced from our base offense, but then the other teams have to take time to prepare for it too, so it benefits us. It's not like the Wildcat is something new where the Dolphins have to do so much repetition since we use it so regularly. Opponents have to prepare something special specifically for the Dolphins. That's a good thing Mr. Aikman.

Is it just me or does the Wildcat look more effective this year? Take away the monstrous game against New England last year, and I think this year will show to be more productive, or at least pretty close.

And Cowherd put it best the other day when he said it's better to be great at one thing than average at a everything.
 
electrolyte said:
If we had Peyton Manning, we wouldn't need the wildcat either.

For teams who could use a huge boost in their run games and open up the passing game, the wildcat does a good job.
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I don't know why, but every time I see your picture, I want to punch my screen, haha. I don't even dislike Nicholas Cage.
 
kellyh3034 said:
I don't know what the exact numbers are, but the wildcat has been less effective this year than it was a year ago when the Dolphins introduced it to the league in the third week of the season.
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:refuse:

ESPN put up a statistic yesterday-

To date, the wildcat since week 3 2008 has averaged 6.6 yards (or something around 6.5)

This year the wildcat has averaged 7.1 yards.

Without getting too much into math, its impossible to do worse this year and bring the overall average UP, meaning its doing better....MUCH better this year.

I'm not much of a name caller, but "idiot" or "tool" seems appropriate.
 
How do these guys figure you are taking snaps away from the QB? According to that philosophy a running play should never be called b/c every time the QB hands off to the RB then you have taken the ball out of the QB's hands...clueless!!!
 
Now that we run the Wildcat most of the time out of a balanced line, it really doesn't take that much extra time to practice. It's really just a bunch of running plays, only with a direct snap to the running back. The blocking angles are the same. The pulling is the same. Everything's the same, except there's no quarterback and a Ricky is sprinting across the formation.

This is what Dolphins players like Ricky Williams and Justin Smiley have been trying to say over the past few days. It's not it's own offense. It's part of the offense. Ricky compared it to the I-formation, but whatever someone's comparison, we're not talking about something that, in my opinion, takes a huge amount of your practice time. What you really need is the personnel, ie, two running backs the defense views as equal threats.

That's really what makes the Wildcat go -- two equal threats. In my opinion, if either Ricky or Ronnie would get hurt, or, at the latest, when Ricky retires, that will be the death of the Wildcat. Not someone "figuring it out". There's nothing to figure out. They're just straight ahead running plays.

This "equal threat" aspect is why Channing Crowder could ignore the jet screen when the Jets ran the "Seminole" on Monday night. Brad Smith simply isn't the threat that Ricky Williams is, so as a defender you can sort of cheat back inside without having to worry about the sweep kicking your ***.

At it's heart, the Wildcat trades the indecision a defense normally has about run vs. pass for indecision about Ronnie vs. Ricky. That's why a team like the Colts doesn't bother with it. People are terrified Peyton Manning is going to fake it and throw the ball over the top (like he did against us). That fear is much greater than their fear about whether Joseph Addai or Donald Brown is going to get the ball, so they have to reason to bother with it. The same goes for every other team with an elite quarterback.

For now, though, we don't have an elite quarterback. We have elite running backs. And as long as that's true, we'll run the Wildcat, and we'll have success.
 
electrolyte said:
If we had Peyton Manning, we wouldn't need the wildcat either.

For teams who could use a huge boost in their run games and open up the passing game, the wildcat does a good job.
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Exactly! Is Aikman that freakin stupid? No one would run the wildcat if they had Peyton Manning running their offense. And once Chad Henne is fully ready...we won't need it either.

As long as it keeps working..use it forever. I still don't understand the hatred for the wildcat. Someone else here said it perfectly the other day...they most likely hate it becasue no one can stop it. And what is he talking about as far as production goes? I dont know the exact numbers...but it feels just as success as last year if not more. Idiot.
 
What does he mean he isn't a believer? The wildcat either is successful or it isn't. Right now it is. You can't argue against facts sorry Troy. One too many concussions I guess.
 
I like Troy Aikman. He personified solid work ethic and discipline. Unfortunately he played for the Cowboys. He is entitled to his opinion but I think that Ricky really stated it best by saying that it is a part of the base offense and no longer is the WC. It's a formation that is run much like the I or 4 WR spread.

I am sure Troy won't deny the success that the Dolphins have had with it because he is a damn good analyst.
 
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