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Troy Drayton's Thoughts on the O-Line from today's Finsiders Radio Show

he is right it is correctable with better players. I dont know whats he is watching but i see plenty of guys getting beat physically
 
WTF is he talking, Carey and Craplombo were beaten like a KFC chicken.
 
d0lphan72 said:
he's a moron then, i saw carey get beat like a drum and colombo get wrecked. thats not fixable unless you bench them
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These guys crack me up. I've been hearing the word "correctable" and "fixable" since the Wannstedt days and the problems never get fixed or corrected. They seem to think football fans are blind. We may not have the coaches game films but we can see when a lineman gets beat or when he can't play. Colombo and Carey are WASHED UP!!!
 
SkapePhin said:
. He said the OL's issues were "correctable".
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Of course thay are correctable; just cut Colombo and Carey, add Gurode into the mix and find a place for Garner and everything is corrected!! Venron and Marc you have been corrected!!!
 
The Oline play was not the greatest but everyone here and in all of Dolphan fandom has to realize one important thing that is being overlooked.

WE NO LONGER HAVE A LEGITIMATE EVERY DOWN RUNNING BACK ON THIS FOOTBALL TEAM

Bush never was, in college or the pros, your everydown running back. Especially when it comes to running inbetween the tackles. I do not care what kind of ra ra bs is being spurted around, Bush is not a proto typicl NFL RB

This kid Thomas looks clueless and lost with a deer in the headlights look.

Hilliard, nope, not even close

MAYBE Larry Johnson but we have yet to see him.

You can pick any offensive line combination off of your X BOX and use it for Miami and know what ? we are not gaining any yardage running simply because we do not have a running back, period. Like I said, maybe Larry Johnson but if he does not produce we have zippo. When you have that situation folks defenses bring the house, play after play after play. Again, choose any xbox lineup of Olineman you want, when a D brings it every play, the offense fails.

No one, not one person has even touched upon that fact.
 
LANGER72 said:
Just radio spin. They repeat the coach's comments to keep on the staff's good side. If they get controversial, they will lose some access and not get material from the coaches. Just playing the game.
I saw the OL get manhandled for most of the game. The right side was blubbery speed bump. Murtha was getting pushed back constantly and the TB nose tackle easily handled Pouncey. We were stone walled.
Those are the facts.
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That is a very skeptical statement. You do know that the man is not always out to get you. He does not have the time nor inclination to so.
 
Coach Fluffy says its all fixable, quoting from a Herald article. He just doesn't know when. Talkin' fluff as usual.

Guess we boneheads will have to suck it up & be happy. Sounds like one of those commie 5-year plans that promised prosperity & left their populace starving.
 
UHHS said:
The Oline play was not the greatest but everyone here and in all of Dolphan fandom has to realize one important thing that is being overlooked.

WE NO LONGER HAVE A LEGITIMATE EVERY DOWN RUNNING BACK ON THIS FOOTBALL TEAM

Bush never was, in college or the pros, your everydown running back. Especially when it comes to running inbetween the tackles. I do not care what kind of ra ra bs is being spurted around, Bush is not a proto typicl NFL RB

This kid Thomas looks clueless and lost with a deer in the headlights look.

Hilliard, nope, not even close

MAYBE Larry Johnson but we have yet to see him.

You can pick any offensive line combination off of your X BOX and use it for Miami and know what ? we are not gaining any yardage running simply because we do not have a running back, period. Like I said, maybe Larry Johnson but if he does not produce we have zippo. When you have that situation folks defenses bring the house, play after play after play. Again, choose any xbox lineup of Olineman you want, when a D brings it every play, the offense fails.

No one, not one person has even touched upon that fact.
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Hey come on! When the Oline opens hole, the RBs will produce. Thomas proved last week that with only decent blocking, he can get the job done. It's time to stop hitting on this kid and cut him some slack. The truth is that the Oline was absolutely awful in 2 of the 1st 3 games and decent in the CAR game, the only one that all RBs produced (coincidentally). I don't think it's all said and done, some of these guys are part of the solution, others must simply be cut and replaced by better players and there's still better players available namely Gurode and Davis, good thing that they're former Cowboys so Tony must love them. Just sign at least 1 of these guys to play RG and you can keep Colombo or Carey as an experienced backup with Murtha and Garner. Heck I would even try out Berger at RG as pathetic as it seems, he souldn't be worse!
 
UHHS said:
The Oline play was not the greatest but everyone here and in all of Dolphan fandom has to realize one important thing that is being overlooked.

WE NO LONGER HAVE A LEGITIMATE EVERY DOWN RUNNING BACK ON THIS FOOTBALL TEAM

Bush never was, in college or the pros, your everydown running back. Especially when it comes to running inbetween the tackles. I do not care what kind of ra ra bs is being spurted around, Bush is not a proto typicl NFL RB

This kid Thomas looks clueless and lost with a deer in the headlights look.

Hilliard, nope, not even close

MAYBE Larry Johnson but we have yet to see him.

You can pick any offensive line combination off of your X BOX and use it for Miami and know what ? we are not gaining any yardage running simply because we do not have a running back, period. Like I said, maybe Larry Johnson but if he does not produce we have zippo. When you have that situation folks defenses bring the house, play after play after play. Again, choose any xbox lineup of Olineman you want, when a D brings it every play, the offense fails.

No one, not one person has even touched upon that fact.
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Yes, you in fact are the only person who has put the matter to the ultra-effective "X-Box Test."
 
SkapePhin said:
Today, on the Finsiders, Troy (I think it was Troy, if it wasn't him, it was Keith Sims) was talking about the OL and he said he wasn't worried. He said the OL's issues were "correctable". He seemed to think the poor performance had more to do with "DE Stunts" (I won't begin to pretend to know what OL jargon or plays are) the Buccs were using throughout. He said those plays are some of the toughest to play against as an OL because its all about timing. The Defense comes off quick in a bunch of different directions to create chaos. He said he didn't see anyone get physically beat by their man.

He said we should only worry if we see the OL being physically beaten consistently, which he says he did not see.

Being that none of us really watch OL play, or even know what to look for if we do, do you think we could all be over-reacting over this? We have a former NFL player who has experience blocking from the offensive line stating that all these issues were correctable. Even if he is on the OFFICIAL radio show of the team, should that count for something?

That discussion put me at ease a bit since I know I don't know the first thing about OL play since its really hard to pick up on screen.
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Was he watching Carey?
 
We need to get bring in at least 1 quality O-line (hopefully Guard) here to compete, and take over the position id who we have on the right side fails.
 
skapephin said:
im trying to get to the bottom of this too, but we could be overreacting based on a small sample size.

I was listening to michael irvin (i know, he's a crackhead, but he is a former nfl player) and he was saying how good of a defensive front tb has so not to worry to much about it. They are quick and physical. I don't know if i would say that they are a marginal defense. Id say above average based on what i have been hearing.
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imo if they are that good we seen the pats destory tampa last week .. ???? Had there way with them on offence and if tampa is that good on defence and pats offence is that good we will get destroyed week 1 just saying.
 
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