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Judo is a GREAT way to learn how to fall. Good for Tua.
Tua interview on Up & Adams, will be doing judo every Friday. Bonus other Tua interviews today added.
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Keeping the back of head from slamming of the ground- exactly. That’s how he got all three concussions.
Yes and no.
It will help potentially with the hit like Milano put on him.
But most others? Nope. You can't simulate the hits he will be taking, while holding or just throwing a ball in a controlled environment.
Look at those cool clips of them swirling around the head and taking the other down. That's a controlled environment were they know what's going to happen.
Now, add a football in that dudes left hand and he either doesn't fall the same way OR he let's go of the ball to brace for impact.
The muscle memory will start causing fumbles.
The first thing he will learn is to fall back, tuck the head and neck and slap the mat with both hands.
Now.... simulate that with a 270lb defender, wrapping you up, while holding a FB in their left hand.
Either he let's go of the ball, or he breaks his wrist.
But hey, why not
If he thinks it will work,by all means
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Yes it will. 100%
Played football up to semi pro/minor league. Coached High School football.
Also been in combatives for 28 years. Wrestling, Judo, Jujitsu etc all leading to MMA. Currently a wrestling coach.
In Judo, do you know what the first thing we were taught? HOW TO FALL. How to get slammed to the ground and not slam your head on the floor. Over and over again. Yes, we trained on mats. But you have to, practicing that on hard surfaces leads to dudes getting knocked out left and right. Does it translate to hard surfaces, once you have the technique down? Yes 100%.
I was a cop. My share of fights on pavement. It worked for me there. And it worked on the football field for me. Every time Tua got slammed on his back he would SLAM the back of his head on the ground. It was so frustrating to watch because Judo can fix that. He will learn to tuck that chin and not let the head whip back. At least, that is the hope if he takes to it. His work will no doubt be modified. He can't be slapping his hands to the ground with a football in tow. They will be aware of that in training. The head snap though...that is where this will shine.
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IMO it will be limited. The rolls and slap outs have little correlation, but you do learn to tuck your chin naturally. The concussions in football most often seem to occur when the back of the head hits the ground. Tucking you chin on impact minimizes that. If that becomes second nature for him that would be a benefit. Personally, I started in judo as a kid. I did that for a few years but then transitioned to other martial arts. Mostly striking arts, but ju-jitsu and MMA also incorporated falls and throws. I also played HS football and was involved in coaching (just one season) and scouting on the collegiate level. I don't believe most football injuries would be prevented by learning how to fall outside of learning to protect your head by tucking your chin. But learning that one technique would certainly have a benefit.
Ehh the packers one was super weird. He was running forwards was tackled from behind and he flipped around to land backwards to hit the back of his head.
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Ok, can you get into the class already and do it more than once a week..
Where are the workout videos at the gym working in your body
I’m sorry it’s time to start both body projects cause he absolutely needs both
Sorry for the rant but it’s been almost two months since he’s done anything
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Has a QB ever gotten a personal foul on a DE before? Would be funny if he does this at one point to an oncoming DE...
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It’s along offseason, the guy just had a kid, it’s okay to take a few moments and enjoy some time off.
Working hard isn’t something I’d worry about when it comes to Tua.
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Slapping the ground to help absorb some of the impact in conjunction with tucking your head will help a lot. You can also use your feet in a similar way but that’s more if you are being flipped over.
You said it in a constructive way, which I could not. But I'm being petty about this based on my 12+ years experience utilizing special training. In fairness, mine is in Krav Maga and Kempo and not Judo etc. But again, one of the first things you learn is how to fall. Which is technically different then learning to tuck the chin which is involved. So I'm being petty and LITERAL with my take on learning to fall won't be effective
At the end of the day that is what I was implying. The tucking chin helps on plays like the Milano late hit in that first Buffalo game.
It's not learning how to fall really.
So in that sense it could help. But we're talking about a minimal amount of hits or tackles where that will help. Quite honestly the only hit that would have truly helped was the one where people still debate whether he had a concussion or not against Buffalo. Not so much against the Bengals and Packers.
But learning to tuck your chin doesn't require special martial arts training.
If they focus SOLELY on that, it could be effective
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Well I know he hasnt taken his body that seriously up until last year jmo..
And I know his body needs a lot of work to be in better shape then it was last year..
So having a kid approx 4-5 months ago shouldn’t interrupt a workout schedule that takes about a few hours a day..
Im only saying this because I said when his season ended him getting stronger and faster is the best remedy to protect himself from further injuries including concussions..
Hopefully he’s been in the gym and has started this off-season regime, if not, then imo he’s late to the process..
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I love Tua and I hope he comes back and balls out, and that he is able to stay as health as he can and have a long career and a good life. It makes me a little worried to watch him speak in these interviews. He seems just slightly less sharp than before in his speech and his mannerisms. He looks just slightly out of it, and like he struggles a little to find his words. I hope I'm just overthinking it, but it's been on my mind for the last couple months whenever he speaks at pressers or any of these interviews.