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The OCs have taken a lot of heat this year, some of it justified for particular plays called in crucial situations, but I think it is time to acknowledge they have done a good job implementing a system that continuously evolves designed to utilize Tua’s strengths…quick decision-making, quick feet, quick release, accuracy, ball placement including when he is not set.

Keep in mind Tua has played 6.5 games this year and Brissett 5.5, with essentially the same number of pass plays (Tua = 234 attempts; 10 sacks: Brissett = 225 attempts; 18 sacks).

The below article does a good job of breaking down Miami’s offensive scheme designed to take advantage of Tua’s elite traits and where Tua can improve.

BTW…I am newish to iPhones, so if non-Apples can’t read the article, I can post some content or you can buy and iPhone 😀

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Tua Tagovailoa Is the Best RPO Passer in the League—and That’s All — The Ringer

The second-year pro has surged recently. But he’ll need more in his arsenal than just run-pass options to become the Dolphins’ franchise QB.
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What I don’t get is why building an offensive scheme around what your QB does best is all of a sudden a bad thing?

No one complained when Baltimore let Jackson run loose and designed their entire offense around him. Does he all of a sudden not have flaws? I’m pretty sure we all witnessed how that type of QB can be contained…

If anything, I view it as a good smart coaching. Taking players and identifying what they do best and putting them in positions to succeed.
 
I disagree with the author's contention that Miami's offense with Tua are limited to RPOs. I don't think Tua is any less accurate when he has more than 2.5 secs to throw. I think the YPA number doesn't jump up as much b/c he tends to hold the ball for more than 2.5 secs when something goes wrong, like a receiver falls down or fails to get separation or there's an OL breakdown that makes Tua have to scramble. Tua is actually among the more accurate deep ball passers. Give him more consistent protection that lasts into that >2.5 sec window and you'll see more deep attempts and a higher YPA for that category.
 
Even when Tua is given credit, there is an Asterix next to it. "He plays well between the lines" is the latest backhand compliment, well so does Tom Brady.......he has made a career of playing well between the lines and that seems to have worked out well for him.
 
If/when we can be a threat running the ball consistently, Tua is going to carve defenses.

That's why the OL is so critical right now, it's not just the pass protection that will make Tua better.

I am spending big money on Orlando Brown Jr. I am reminding him before he leaves the building there is a good chance he'll see all 5 years of his potential contract, with Miami. As opposed to restructuring every so often to help out the Chiefs/Or any other contender for his services.

Then I'm turning my attention to the Saints and acquiring Alvin Kamara and Cesar Ruiz from the cap hindered and going no where, New Orleans Saints.
 
NYFINest said:
What I don’t get is why building an offensive scheme around what your QB does best is all of a sudden a bad thing?

No one complained when Baltimore let Jackson run loose and designed their entire offense around him. Does he all of a sudden not have flaws? I’m pretty sure we all witnessed how that type of QB can be contained…

If anything, I view it as a good smart coaching. Taking players and identifying what they do best and putting them in positions to succeed.
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100% … I remember an interview with coach Shula back in the day and he was talking about the transition from the Dolphins running attack in the 70s and early 80s before Marino was drafted. He said, before Marino we had a style which was to run the ball and play defense, but after seeing Marino throw he changed his style to attack!

The most criticism I have seen the OCs taking is they are not calling plays to throw the ball down the field. I think implimenting that style of play would result in a lot of 3 and outs and wear out the defense, not worth the occasional hit. Better OL play and WRs in which going deep is a strength will allow for that, but Parker and Fulller who are way more off the field than on it limits those possibilities.

I liked in the article comparing Miami’s RPOs to GB’s RPO. GB uses it to get the ball to players around the LOS whereas Miami uses RPOs to get the ball 5-7 yards past the LOS. Tua literally had more Intended air yards and air yards (average yards thrown beyond the LOS) last year than Herbert and did again until this past week. On RPOs Tua might have to throw the ball 10 yards to get it 7 yards past the LOS, whereas Herbert might have to throw the ball 15 yards. Tua will get the ball there quicker than Herbert and his cannon of an arm.

I watched an Alabama game a month or two back and Gary Danielson, former QB for Lions and SEC top analysis for CBS games, commented after Bryce Young threw a slant that he was able to carry on Alabama QBs ability to hit those. He said last year it was Mac Jones and before that it was Tua. He then raved about Tua saying that Tua throws the slant better than anyone ever has.

That to me is why I think the OCs have done a great job designing the playbook. Why die by the deep ball which the team is not built for when they can live by the short ball which is their strength. Similar in style to Montana and Brady. The deep ball will come more frequently as Tua and his supporting cast improve.

Not a lecture toward you, just a rant taking a break from work 😀
 
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rafael said:
I disagree with the author's contention that Miami's offense with Tua are limited to RPOs. I don't think Tua is any less accurate when he has more than 2.5 secs to throw. I think the YPA number doesn't jump up as much b/c he tends to hold the ball for more than 2.5 secs when something goes wrong, like a receiver falls down or fails to get separation or there's an OL breakdown that makes Tua have to scramble. Tua is actually among the more accurate deep ball passers. Give him more consistent protection that lasts into that >2.5 sec window and you'll see more deep attempts and a higher YPA for that category.
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His deep ball completion percentage (50) agrees.
 
AdamD13 said:
The OCs have taken a lot of heat this year, some of it justified for particular plays called in crucial situations, but I think it is time to acknowledge they have done a good job implementing a system that continuously evolves designed to utilize Tua’s strengths…quick decision-making, quick feet, quick release, accuracy, ball placement including when he is not set.

Keep in mind Tua has played 6.5 games this year and Brissett 5.5, with essentially the same number of pass plays (Tua = 234 attempts; 10 sacks: Brissett = 225 attempts; 18 sacks).

The below article does a good job of breaking down Miami’s offensive scheme designed to take advantage of Tua’s elite traits and where Tua can improve.

BTW…I am newish to iPhones, so if non-Apples can’t read the article, I can post some content or you can buy and iPhone 😀

apple.news

Tua Tagovailoa Is the Best RPO Passer in the League—and That’s All — The Ringer

The second-year pro has surged recently. But he’ll need more in his arsenal than just run-pass options to become the Dolphins’ franchise QB.
apple.news apple.news
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According to the Hillbilly -- Tua was "best ever" in college running RPOs.

Personally I see no reason to question him based on his backwoods knowledge and in-bred 'bama instincts!

Seriously, the kid look mighty fine doing the RPO show so why not let 'er rip?

Of course mix it up to a degree and keep the D off-balance but I've heard rumors from more than one team

that's played Miami and the consensus is Tua runs the RPO quite well and they had "difficulty adjusting" to it.

With more diversity and fine-tuned execution it would be stupid to not keep RPOing all the way!

Beyond that. I have no clue!

BNF
 
Is this the Ben Solarse or whatever his name is article ? Not going to waste my time reading that or giving them a click. From what I understand is a thinly veiled criticism piece from one of Kyle Crabbs's mates, what a shocker !

He basically fails to acknowledge the fact that with this oline there is no chance to do anything else. Lazy piece don't waste your time.
 
NYFINest said:
What I don’t get is why building an offensive scheme around what your QB does best is all of a sudden a bad thing?

No one complained when Baltimore let Jackson run loose and designed their entire offense around him. Does he all of a sudden not have flaws? I’m pretty sure we all witnessed how that type of QB can be contained…

If anything, I view it as a good smart coaching. Taking players and identifying what they do best and putting them in positions to succeed.
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Jmo, but that drop off in production is directly correlated to the worst oline in football.

You give this dude a normal amount of time and the innate accuracy and release will drop dimes deep.
 
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