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I think the dolphins have a big problem on their hands. I wanted Tua over Herbert but obviously so far looking like a mistake. Unfortunately, he's showing me nothing he's terrible in the pocket but his biggest issue is he will only throw the ball if the guys wide-open which is not gonna happen in the NFL. So I don't know if he's a bust but he's not top-tier and he's not getting us to a Super Bowl if There is a major improvement. My other big problem is coaching. Carr could not move last night and they kept rushing three it made no sense the bomb happened because he had all the in the world. The other issue was the safety Rowe covering Waller why didn't they put a Howard or Jones on Waller. Didn't Flores learned this from Belicheck get rid of their biggest weapon and let someone else beat you. So a great win but unbelievably lucky. No matter what happens they have four picks, Out of the first 55 probably ,you need to grab a quarterback with one of those again just my opinion.
 
You just showed how little you know about football.
The safety usually covers the TE. Howard and Jones are corners and cover the WR.
And actually Rowe had good coverage on most of Wallers catches.
He is just a great athlete.
Reason he made the pro bowl this year.
 
Tua is not done yet. This is a long process and we won’t know if it’s a mistake until after the 2022 season or so. Gauging everything off the last thing we saw is typical. I’m really not worried about this. This is an extremely tough situation for a rookie QB. Alive for a playoff berth and literally nothing to work with on offense. Give the kid a break, he will learn. If this Fitz relief situation is happening next year I’d say maybe we have a problem but I don’t expect it to.
 
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'Deep said:
We have our quarterback. Tua will be fine.
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Dan13Forever said:
Just used the ignore button.
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risskybzns said:
I think the dolphins have a big problem on their hands. I wanted Tua over Herbert but obviously so far looking like a mistake. Unfortunately, he's showing me nothing he's terrible in the pocket but his biggest issue is he will only throw the ball if the guys wide-open which is not gonna happen in the NFL. So I don't know if he's a bust but he's not top-tier and he's not getting us to a Super Bowl if There is a major improvement. My other big problem is coaching. Carr could not move last night and they kept rushing three it made no sense the bomb happened because he had all the in the world. The other issue was the safety Rowe covering Waller why didn't they put a Howard or Jones on Waller. Didn't Flores learned this from Belicheck get rid of their biggest weapon and let someone else beat you. So a great win but unbelievably lucky. No matter what happens they have four picks, Out of the first 55 probably ,you need to grab a quarterback with one of those again just my opinion.
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I didn’t say everyone had to agree with me but kind of douche to say hit ignore button. Of course safeties cover TE my point is he plays more like a wide receiver and a skill set is definitely that of a wide receiver there’s no reason not to put a corner on him.
 
RonniesRightArm said:
Three years ago the Eagles thought they had their guy in Wentz. You just never know man. But I DO know you can’t judge a guy after a hand full of starts in his first year.
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I don't understand why people can't think this way. It's like we have a bunch of NFL scouts on this forum who evaluate talent for a living.

I mean listen I get it . I'm a little concerned myself and was hoping he'd come out the gate lighting the league up but he hasn't.

You used a good example in wentz and I'm sure we could come up with a bunch more. You got to give tua some more time. It's still way too early to tell. Some guys take longer to progress. Some come out on fire and fall off. Its just too early.
 
Its kind of baffling to me the way Tua is getting bashed around here... His output this season is being described as somewhat of a deception, as if he sort of failed. I think he's playing outstanding football for a rookie. I mean if you told me before the season started Tua would be 5-2 as a starter throwing for 10 TDs with only 2 INTs going into the last game of the season, I'd have been perfectly fine with those numbers.

Especially considering the fact he played all those games without his #2 and about half of them without his #1 WR and one game with basically no one. I get it, his YPA is way lower than it should be, but you have to consider what he has to work with. The Fins are 4th to last in the NFL in yards after the catch/reception. The Fins starting WRs were bottom of the barrel at getting open and their replacements dont even have enough targets to show up on the chart.

Those are not excuses as what Tua showed as a rookie is WAY above average to begin with, those are just reasons why he isnt actually dominating out there. Which sounds like it was him dominating or bust as soon as the Fins drafted him for alot of guys on this site.
 
NBP81 said:
Its kind of baffling to me the way Tua is getting bashed around here... His output this season is being described as somewhat of a deception, as if he sort of failed. I think he's playing outstanding football for a rookie. I mean if you told me before the season started Tua would be 5-2 as a starter throwing for 10 TDs with only 2 INTs going into the last game of the season, I'd have been perfectly fine with those numbers.

Especially considering the fact he played all those games without his #2 and about half of them without his #1 WR and one game with basically no one. I get it, his YPA is way lower than it should be, but you have to consider what he has to work with. The Fins are 4th to last in the NFL in yards after the catch/reception. The Fins starting WRs were bottom of the barrel at getting open and their replacements dont even have enough targets to show up on the chart.

Those are not excuses as what Tua showed as a rookie is WAY above average to begin with, those are just reasons why he isnt actually dominating out there. Which sounds like it was him dominating or bust as soon as the Fins drafted him for alot of guys on this site.
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Actually Tua is now 6-2 as a starter.
He was the starting QB in yesterday's win and gets credit. As he got credit for the Denver loss which he started.
 
risskybzns said:
I think the dolphins have a big problem on their hands. I wanted Tua over Herbert but obviously so far looking like a mistake. Unfortunately, he's showing me nothing he's terrible in the pocket but his biggest issue is he will only throw the ball if the guys wide-open which is not gonna happen in the NFL. So I don't know if he's a bust but he's not top-tier and he's not getting us to a Super Bowl if There is a major improvement. My other big problem is coaching. Carr could not move last night and they kept rushing three it made no sense the bomb happened because he had all the in the world. The other issue was the safety Rowe covering Waller why didn't they put a Howard or Jones on Waller. Didn't Flores learned this from Belicheck get rid of their biggest weapon and let someone else beat you. So a great win but unbelievably lucky. No matter what happens they have four picks, Out of the first 55 probably ,you need to grab a quarterback with one of those again just my opinion.
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Ugggh we won
 
finfanatl said:
Actually Tua is now 6-2 as a starter.
He was the starting QB in yesterday's win and gets credit. As he got credit for the Denver loss which he started.
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I know... To be frank, I think the Fins win if they let him finish... But he left the game losing by 3 so Im not using it as a win to form an argument... this will only welcome counter arguments stating exactly this, which has nothing to do with the argument Im trying to make...
 
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