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### CBS lead NFL analyst Phil Simms, who works his first Dolphins game of the season Thursday, said by phone Monday that Ryan Tannehill “so far this year has won me over. I definitely notice a difference. I’ve been really, really impressed; he’s finding the right guys, throwing in rhythm, he looks stronger. And what really impresses me is he is more natural and really letting the ball go.”

Simms now believes Tannehill can be an above average NFL starting quarterback.

But even though he likes Tannehill’s ability to run the read option, he cautions that when an opponent “is fairly good and they’re ready for it, it’s useless. It’s a good thing but I wouldn’t want to see a steady diet” because of the injury risk.

### Simms likes this Dolphins team and “was fairly impressed with how they adjusted” Sunday after losing Branden Albert.

“They’ve got guys who can make plays to win games: wide receivers, the quarterback, many guys up front, their safeties, their corners,” he said. “It’s hard to pick out a severe weakness in this team; I don’t know if there is one.

“What stands out is how many dynamic players they have. You can see it forming for them. [But] they let the Green Bay game get away and they lost a tough one to Detroit. Those are the kind of situations that determine your year.”

### After being thrown just one pass Sunday, Brian Hartline is on pace for 76 targets --- well below his 127 last season. The NFL’s 18th-most targeted receiver last season, he’s 60th in targets last season. No wonder he’s gone from 23rd in receiving yards last season (1016) to 73rd (269).

Agent Drew Rosenhaus, on his weekly WSVN-7 Fox segment Sunday, good naturedly called for the Dolphins to find ways to maximize Hartline’s talent, as any good agent would.

Hartline said Tuesday he doesn’t want to bring up the issue to coaches: “Coaches can use me as they see fit.”
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Hartline sucks and is overpaid.

good stuff about Tannehill and how everyone is noticing easily our best QB after Marino which was so hard to find but now people on this board want another qb already because they fall from everywhere
 
DeathStar said:
"Hartline sucks and is overpaid."

Jordy Nelson 2 lol
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People say Hartline = Jordy Nelson 2.0

In a way they're right. They just have the decimal point wrong:

He's Jordy Nelson .02

LD
 
LDaniel7 said:
People say Hartline = Jordy Nelson 2.0

In a way they're right. They just have the decimal point wrong:

He's Jordy Nelson .02

LD
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:lol:

I swear, LD, one of these days I'm going to arrange to have you sent an autographed #82 Hartline jersey. One of these days.
 
I think they should send him, Hartline, deep. He's done it before and most of the time it went well.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
:lol:

I swear, LD, one of these days I'm going to arrange to have you sent an autographed #82 Hartline jersey. One of these days.
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it wont be autographed but he can have the one my pops bought and wore to the chargers game in an altzheimers moment...
 
Hartline DVOA:
2009-9th
2010-34th
2011-26th
2012-43rd
2013-51st
2014-59th

I've never felt Hartline was anything other than mediocre but I actually appreciate him much more after looking at these stats. Having Brandon Marshall on the team obviously must have helped him a lot but there is a pretty stark difference through the QBs as well.

Wallace DVOA:
2009-4th
2010-1st
2011-8th
2012-78th
2013-75th
2014-46th

Look at that difference. Top ten 3 of his 4 years with Big Ben. First overall one year.

Nelson DVOA:
2009-didn't qualify
2010-24th
2011-1st
2012-6th
2013-6th
2014-1st

Jennings DVOA:
2007-2nd
2008-22nd
2009-26th
2010-7th
2011-12th
2012-58th
2013-38th
2014-48th

Fitzgerald DVOA
2005-22nd
2006-9th
2007-29th
2008-7th
2009-30th
2010-71st
2011-31st
2012-83rd
2013-49th
2014-17th

Brandon Marshall
2006-54th
2007-29th
2008-58th
2009-38th
2010-54th
2011-36th
2012-46th
2013-22nd
2014-54th

Why did we give up two seconds for this guy again?

Anquan Boldin
2003-30th
2004-77th
2005-38th
2006-49th
2007-17th
2008-16th
2009-45th
2010-38th
2011-34th
2012-35th
2013-9th
2014-15th

Boldin is interesting. We could have just signed him as a free agent instead of trading for Marshall, and as you can tell he was better statisitcally. Its also interesting to see how his stats vary over all of the different QBs, its pretty obvious which years he played with Kurt Warner.
 
roy_miami said:
Hartline DVOA:
2009-9th
2010-34th
2011-26th
2012-43rd
2013-51st
2014-59th

I've never felt Hartline was anything other than mediocre but I actually appreciate him much more after looking at these stats. Having Brandon Marshall on the team obviously must have helped him a lot but there is a pretty stark difference through the QBs as well.

Wallace DVOA:
2009-4th
2010-1st
2011-8th
2012-78th
2013-75th
2014-46th

Look at that difference. Top ten 3 of his 4 years with Big Ben. First overall one year.

Nelson DVOA:
2009-didn't qualify
2010-24th
2011-1st
2012-6th
2013-6th
2014-1st

Jennings DVOA:
2007-2nd
2008-22nd
2009-26th
2010-7th
2011-12th
2012-58th
2013-38th
2014-48th

Fitzgerald DVOA
2005-22nd
2006-9th
2007-29th
2008-7th
2009-30th
2010-71st
2011-31st
2012-83rd
2013-49th
2014-17th

Brandon Marshall
2006-54th
2007-29th
2008-58th
2009-38th
2010-54th
2011-36th
2012-46th
2013-22nd
2014-54th

Why did we give up two seconds for this guy again?

Anquan Boldin
2003-30th
2004-77th
2005-38th
2006-49th
2007-17th
2008-16th
2009-45th
2010-38th
2011-34th
2012-35th
2013-9th
2014-15th

Boldin is interesting. We could have just signed him as a free agent instead of trading for Marshall, and as you can tell he was better statisitcally. Its also interesting to see how his stats vary over all of the different QBs, its pretty obvious which years he played with Kurt Warner.
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Roy I think shouright has hacked your account! Mods can you verify this???

Oh and Wallace was a steeler in 2012 aka his "worst" season. Also any ratings system that ever ranked Brian hartline 9th in the league has many, many flaws. Might want to junk it.
 
AZStryker said:
Roy I think shouright has hacked your account! Mods can you verify this???

Oh and Wallace was a steeler in 2012 aka his "worst" season. Also any ratings system that ever ranked Brian hartline 9th in the league has many, many flaws. Might want to junk it.
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DVOA is more of a value per play stat, so per play he was 9th best, but he was a rookie so he didn't play a lot. He was actually 30th overall that year. I didn't include most rookie years because they either didn't qualify or were abnormally bad, but Hartline was very impressive for a rookie. In his 1000 yard seasons Hartline is ranked much higher than his DVOA stats, but as you can see his per play value has been pretty constant.

Yeah, I don't know what happened to Wallace in 2012. Ben was hurt a lot that year, and I think Wallace might have been hurt too.
 
Gibson DVOA:
2009-84th
2010-70th
2011-68th
2012-11th
2013-20th

Do you know what I'm starting to think? That maybe our wide receiver free agent signings were influenced by these stats. We dumped the guy that underperformed. We avoided Jennings, who looked to be in decline. And all the guys we signed have had some very good statistical seasons going into their prime. I looked at Amendola and he was horrible in this stat.

Even Ochocinko and Legadu had some good looking stats.
 
They had a different offensive coordinator in 2012 and switched to a west coast type of offense.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
:lol:

I swear, LD, one of these days I'm going to arrange to have you sent an autographed #82 Hartline jersey. One of these days.
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The ultimate torture mechanism, lol.

You could get any truth out of me with the touch of that jersey. Waterboarding? Nah. Never touch me.

Hartline-jersey-boarding? Burning skin. Screaming.

Anything you want to know, lol.

LD
 
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