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Here are some Bowl Games on tonight and some players to scout.

Champs Sports Bowl
8:00, ESPN
Miami (Florida) vs. Wisconsin

Draft Prospects

-Allen Bailey-DL-Miami
-Jason Fox-OT-Miami
-Orlando Franklin-OG-Miami
-Colin McCarthey-LB-Miami
-Daryl Sharpton-LB-Miami
-Jimmy Graham-TE-Miami
-Joe Joseph-DL-Miami
-John Clay-RB-Wisconsin
-Garrett Graham-TE-Wisconsin
-O'Brien Schofield-OLB-Wisconsin

EagleBank Bowl
4:30, ESPN
UCLA vs. Temple

Draft Prospects

-Reggie Carter-ILB-UCLA
-Brian Price-DT-UCLA
-Alterraun Vrener-CB-UCLA
-Andre Neblett-DT-Temple
 
Brian Price and Allen Bailey are guys with 1st Round grades IMO. Bailey will return to Miami and Price will declare IMO. Price is a bit undersize to play Nose Tackle in our defensive scheme BUT I wouldn't rule him out
 
Here are some Bowl Games on tonight and some players to scout.

Champs Sports Bowl
8:00, ESPN
Miami (Florida) vs. Wisconsin

Draft Prospects

-Allen Bailey-DL-Miami
-Jason Fox-OT-Miami
-Orlando Franklin-OG-Miami
-Colin McCarthey-LB-Miami
-Daryl Sharpton-LB-Miami
-Jimmy Graham-TE-Miami
-Joe Joseph-DL-Miami
-John Clay-RB-Wisconsin
-Garrett Graham-TE-Wisconsin
-O'Brien Schofield-OLB-Wisconsin

EagleBank Bowl
4:30, ESPN
UCLA vs. Temple

Draft Prospects

-Reggie Carter-ILB-UCLA
-Brian Price-DT-UCLA
-Alterraun Vrener-CB-UCLA
-Andre Neblett-DT-Temple

thx for the heads up, i'm working tonight at my bar and i was wondering what channel i was going to put on ... (canadiens aren't playing tonight :D )

:thanks:
 
If Hankerson goes pro I would be VERY bullish on the guy, unless he timed out somewhere in the 4.6 range which would surprise me. He's built like an NFL starter, seems to have the speed and athleticism, and this year his hands have gotten so much better. He's made a lot of plays this year.
 
From what I'm seeing so far, they're showcasing his on the line blocking a little bit. I'm seeing him lined up on the line and blocking some DEs including O'Brian Schofield.

Orlando Franklin starting at LT this game. That should be very interesting. I've always considered him sort of a Branden Albert in that he's so big and talented he should probably be at LT except Jason Fox has been there forever.
 
all i have to say is Go Miami!!! lol

I've seen all the Miami games, so i'm be keeping an eye on O'Brian.
 
Whoops. That's strange. Jimmy Graham appears to be better on the line than he is as an H-Back, when it comes to blocking. He just got Jacory killed.

With the gut he looks like Dice Clay.
 
and the verdict on jimmy graham is RAW with a capital R...

i thought he did ok as in line blocker in the few reps he got there against schoefield...

but like ck said he missed an assignment as in didn't even get a hand on a free incoming defender when lined up as an h back...

he got a free release all night i never saw him have to disengage from anyone at the los he wasn't even chipped but when he got into his routes and was making his cuts with a defender nearby he didn't use his body at all to create separation and he didn't use his hands either to get guys off balance...

he caught 1 ball at the sideline where the closing defender laid a good lick on him and graham barely kept the ball to the ground...in fact i'm not sure the defender didn't take it from him...

he just looks like a guy to me who will take years to develop and with that height is gonna have trouble when guys try to jack him up with leverage in line as a blocker...i see guys getting up underneath of him and being able to move him pretty easily...if he doesn't play with great technique at that height he's gonna have issues imo and i think his technique is at best a work in progress...

like the athleticism on the high ball early on nice leap and catch...

for me he's worth no more than a 5th round pick as a developmental player in a draft as deep and talented as this one promises to be and he's gonna have to play with more of a mean streak to play te for us...in fact i think i would go for a more polished player over him...he's the kind of guy imo you try to stash on your practice squad and develop

regarding jacory harris where did i read on here someone thought he had a pro future at qb??? ugh
 
Boy I disagree with most of that. I thought he was very fluid at using his hands to get by defenders within the 5 yard area. Not everything is a jam right on the line of scrimmage. In fact it's a little more rare to see that. Most often you see a linebacker get a hand on you in the second level within the 5 yard area and the tight end has to use his hands in return and get some separation.

The learning curve for him has been steep and fast. Not long ago he'd never touched a football. Now he's blocking Schofield and Watt on the line, even at one point kicking Watt all the way to the sideline on a stretch play and then pancaking him straight onto his back. Now he's releasing on combo routes and using his hands fluidly at the second level to create separation for himself. He's running normal routes and catching normal passes, not just ones where they tell him to get to the back of the end zone and jump high for the ball.

You go ahead and wait until he gets in the 5th round before you take him. I'll take him in the 3rd or even the 2nd round and I'll be a happy camper. You don't come across a guy with his size, athletic ability and quick learning curve very often. They always say, be an athlete. He was one of the most productive shot blockers in UM history. He's an athlete. He does what you ask him to do and he might not do it right the first time or even the second, if he's real new to it, but to be where he's at right now, on the field tonight he was literally as valuable a player as Jermaine Gresham was in an Oklahoma-Texas game I graded from a year ago...and that's pretty incredible. He didn't have Gresham's reputation or respect from a defense, but he had a lot of the same skill and ability. Jacory Harris wasn't finding him a lot of the time that he was open.

Toward the beginning of the season I would look at Jimmy Graham, and look at Dedric Epps (who has a lot of experience at the position, and a lot of athleticism and ability in his own right) and told you that Epps is the more valuable Tight End. Tonight, it wasn't even close. Graham was not only a better pass catching threat, he was a better blocker.

When he missed that one assignment I'm not sure I've ever seen him asked to do that before. It seemed like an awkward play design. He messed up on it big time for sure, but if you had him practice it and asked him to do it for the next month, he wouldn't mess it up next month. That's what I perceive to be his learning curve.

He's a bright kid. Listen to him talk and you'd hear it. He was on the radio one time and they were joking (semi-seriously) that he should join them on the radio because he was a natural speaker and communicated very, very effectively and efficiently. To me, that's just a brain thing. He's a smart guy.
 
to each his own...

and on that kick out pancake block you referenced was it just me or did he not have a hand on the back of the defender??? sure looked like it to me...

too raw for my taste early
 
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