Tuesday Dolphins nuggets:: The Jarvis Landry conundrum

[AL R]

Tuesday Dolphins nuggets: The Jarvis Landry conundrum and Miami's desire to get others involved; lots of personnel items

Among the similarities between the Dolphins’ offense witnessed during this training camp and the unit they fielded last season: lots of sacks relinquished and an extreme reliance on Jarvis Landry in the passing game.

Landry last season was targeted on 167 passes – sixth most in the league, and ahead of star receivers Odell Beckham, Larry Fitzgerald and AJ Green. The next Dolphin on the list?

Tight end Jordan Cameron, who was 91st with 70 targets.And that trend has continued during this camp, with Landry targeted on the clear majority of balls that Ryan Tannehill throws to his receivers and tight ends.

During a camp when the offense has struggled and DeVante Parker has missed time with a hamstring injury, many of the limited number of successful passing plays have gone to Landry.Landry’s high productivity, great hands and the high energy with which he plays vaulted him into the list of NFL.com’s top 100 players this offseason, as voted by his peers. (Landry was 98th.)

But though it’s absolutely no knock on Landry’s skills, the Dolphins haven’t won any of Landry’s best games statistically.In his two seasons, the Dolphins are 0-5 when he has 90 or more receiving yards. They’re 0-3 when he catches 10 or more passes, losing those games by 41 points combined last season to the Bills, Jets and Giants. (There obviously will be more opportunity to catch passes when a team is playing catchup, as Miami was in those games.)

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[Kdawg954]

[h=3]Tuesday Dolphins nuggets: The Jarvis Landry conundrum and Miami's desire to get others involved; lots of personnel items[/h]

Among the similarities between the Dolphins’ offense witnessed during this training camp and the unit they fielded last season: lots of sacks relinquished and an extreme reliance on Jarvis Landry in the passing game.

Landry last season was targeted on 167 passes – sixth most in the league, and ahead of star receivers Odell Beckham, Larry Fitzgerald and AJ Green.

The next Dolphin on the list?

Tight end Jordan Cameron, who was 91st with 70 targets.

And that trend has continued during this camp, with Landry targeted on the clear majority of balls that Ryan Tannehill throws to his receivers and tight ends.

During a camp when the offense has struggled and DeVante Parker has missed time with a hamstring injury, many of the limited number of successful passing plays have gone to Landry.

Landry’s high productivity, great hands and the high energy with which he plays vaulted him into the list of NFL.com’s top 100 players this offseason, as voted by his peers. (Landry was 98th.)

But though it’s absolutely no knock on Landry’s skills, the Dolphins haven’t won any of Landry’s best games statistically.

In his two seasons, the Dolphins are 0-5 when he has 90 or more receiving yards. They’re 0-3 when he catches 10 or more passes, losing those games by 41 points combined last season to the Bills, Jets and Giants. (There obviously will be more opportunity to catch passes when a team is playing catchup, as Miami was in those games.)

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You just want to make sure Tannehill is making the best decisions and not cutting off his vision of the entire field to have an over reliance short to Jarvis. I think having a healthy Parker, you saw Ryan have more confidence that there was this reliable target on the outside he could throw it up to and odds are a completion was happening over an interception.

Jarvis is great because he has reliable hands and can break tackles. He can turn a 2 yard throw into 6 or 7 . . . but certainly wanna see Cameron and Parker more involved, plus if Foster is healthy, he'll take touches as well.

 

[VBCheeseGrater]

.In his two seasons, the Dolphins are 0-5 when he has 90 or more receiving yards. They’re 0-3 when he catches 10 or more passes, losing those games by 41 points combined last season to the Bills, Jets and Giants. (There obviously will be more opportunity to catch passes when a team is playing catchup, as Miami was in those games.)

Dang - no wonder i was cringing every time we forced our 4th WR screen of the half to him....

 

[Dolfan Dave]

Dolphins media coverage is such a joke. This really isn't towards Barry Jackson who is one of the best we got but there really isn't a correlation between any of this.

Jarvis Landry gets open and catches balls. He isn't the reason we won or lost. Not stopping the run, not blocking, poor game planning, and a host of many other things are the reason the team lost.

 

[Eesti]

Take away about 100 pass attempts from Tannehill and give them to the running backs. This will also shorten the dependence upon Landry.

 

[Dolphindrew]

Get rid of the senseless over-use of the highly predictable bubble screen, which I'm sure Gase will do, and I have ZERO problem with targeting this guy frequently. He's a possession receiver who has a knack for finding openings. Call it what you want - the man is a total competitor and plays the game hard-nosed and wants the ball. The guys who were targeted more? Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Demaryius Thomas, Brandon Marshall. Raise your hand if you hear those camps complaining or referring to it as a conundrum for their franchise.

 

[DolfanDuBbZ~]

Get rid of the senseless over-use of the highly predictable bubble screen, which I'm sure Gase will do, and I have ZERO problem with targeting this guy frequently. He's a possession receiver who has a knack for finding openings. Call it what you want - the man is a total competitor and plays the game hard-nosed and wants the ball. The guys who were targeted more? Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, DeAndre Hopkins, Demaryius Thomas, Brandon Marshall. Raise your hand if you hear those camps complaining or referring to it as a conundrum for their franchise.

That list of WRs, says exactly why this franchise has a conundrum.

 

[tay0365]

Tuesday Dolphins nuggets: The Jarvis Landry conundrum and Miami's desire to get others involved; lots of personnel items

Among the similarities between the Dolphins’ offense witnessed during this training camp and the unit they fielded last season: lots of sacks relinquished and an extreme reliance on Jarvis Landry in the passing game.

Landry last season was targeted on 167 passes – sixth most in the league, and ahead of star receivers Odell Beckham, Larry Fitzgerald and AJ Green. The next Dolphin on the list?

Tight end Jordan Cameron, who was 91st with 70 targets.And that trend has continued during this camp, with Landry targeted on the clear majority of balls that Ryan Tannehill throws to his receivers and tight ends.

During a camp when the offense has struggled and DeVante Parker has missed time with a hamstring injury, many of the limited number of successful passing plays have gone to Landry.Landry’s high productivity, great hands and the high energy with which he plays vaulted him into the list of NFL.com’s top 100 players this offseason, as voted by his peers. (Landry was 98th.)

But though it’s absolutely no knock on Landry’s skills, the Dolphins haven’t won any of Landry’s best games statistically.In his two seasons, the Dolphins are 0-5 when he has 90 or more receiving yards. They’re 0-3 when he catches 10 or more passes, losing those games by 41 points combined last season to the Bills, Jets and Giants. (There obviously will be more opportunity to catch passes when a team is playing catchup, as Miami was in those games.)

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Well, has everyone forgotten how well Tannehill and Parker were doing in camp before he got hurt.

A QB (Not just Tannehill, but most all QBs) needs to start getting comfortable with his receivers, before he will start trusting and consistently start throwing their way.

Landry is his security blanket, if all is going bad, he knows Landry will find a way to come down with it, and that will also happen with Parker soon enough again...as with Foster out of the backfield, and Dion Simms (Get your act together Cameron).

 

[j-off-her-doll]

As soon as Miami drafted Landry, I said he'd be Tannehill's BFF. If Parker stays healthy, and as Carroo develops, I expect the dependency on Landry to diminish, but Tannehill knows that Landry will do everything in his power to fight for the ball on every play, and Landry's attention to detail also makes him a great target. Nothing to worry about yet.

Running more would also help.

 

[hoops]

Take away about 100 pass attempts from Tannehill and give them to the running backs. This will also shorten the dependence upon Landry.

need to get ahead of the sticks to do that

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

need to get ahead of the sticks to do that

I think they need to commit to running the ball even if the ground game is struggling. It helps the OL.

 

[fansinceGWilson]

Well, has everyone forgotten how well Tannehill and Parker were doing in camp before he got hurt. A QB (Not just Tannehill, but most all QBs) needs to start getting comfortable with his receivers, before he will start trusting and consistently start throwing their way. Landry is his security blanket, if all is going bad, he knows Landry will find a way to come down with it, and that will also happen with Parker soon enough again...as with Foster out of the backfield, and Dion Simms (Get your act together Cameron).

And with Landry and Parker getting the D's attention, other receivers BETTER get open. If not, this group isn't near what I anticipate.

 

[hoops]

I think they need to commit to running the ball even if the ground game is struggling. It helps the OL.

you can only do that if the d keeps you in games...you can only continuously run the ball with no success if the scoreboard stays in striking distance

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

you can only do that if the d keeps you in games...you can only continuously run the ball with no success if the scoreboard stays in striking distance

Well let me ask you a real question, hoops:

Do you think there is a possibility that the 2016 Miami Dolphins can be a playoff team?

Because from where I'm sitting, if you believe that the 2016 Dolphins can be a playoff team, then yeah, you play the way the scoreboard dictates that you have to. But if you don't believe this team is going anywhere... you preserve your quarterback's health and build for the future.

 

[hoops]

Well let me ask you a real question, hoops:

Do you think there is a possibility that the 2016 Miami Dolphins can be a playoff team?

Because from where I'm sitting, if you believe that the 2016 Dolphins can be a playoff team, then yeah, you play the way the scoreboard dictates that you have to. But if you don't believe this team is going anywhere... you preserve your quarterback's health and build for the future.

honest answer is absolutely yes...but we need oline play and we need adam gase to be legit

scheme and gameplan and ability to offset deficiencies with it should they arise can be a massive difference maker

and by legit I mean he needs to be sean payton game caller and manager

injuries could derail us but they could derail every team