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The Dolphins’ 2016 draft class already has netted them a likely immediate starter at left guard in Laremy Tunsil, a potentially explosive returner in Jakeem Grant and possibly a soon-to-be starter at cornerback, if Xavien Howard can jump Tony Lippett on the depth chart.
But questions swirl around the other draft picks, with quarterback Brandon Doughty, tight end Thomas Duarte and cornerback Jordan Lucas battling to make the roster, and receiver Leonte Carroo and running back Kenyan Drake simply trying to get on the field.
First, the good news: Tunsil started for the second consecutive game at left guard on Thursday and performed capably, especially in pass protection. In 90 snaps this preseason, Tunsil hasn’t allowed a sack or quarterback pressure. His run blocking still needs work, but the Dolphins like what they’ve seen.
“I thought he was arguably the best player in the draft,” NBC’s Cris Collinsworth said during Thursday’s broadcast.
Even though Howard has missed all three preseason games after June knee surgery, the Dolphins are ready to escalate his workload this week and believe he could contribute a lot in September.
“I wouldn’t say he’s far behind mentally because he’s dialed in to what we’re doing,” coach Adam Gase said. “He’s playing one-on-one coverage a lot of the times. That’s his strength and I’m sure we’re going to try to lean on his strength of just matching him up with somebody and letting him go. He gets his hands on a lot of balls and then when he does get both hands up to make a play on the ball, he usually catches it.”
Grant, meanwhile, appears close to winning the return jobs. He’s averaging 25.5 yards on four kickoff returns and 12.2 yards on seven punt returns. Less clear is how much the Dolphins plan to use him on offense.
He caught four passes for 68 yards in the opener but wasn’t targeted the past two games. In fact, Grant played only one offensive snap against Dallas and five against Atlanta, surprising considering that offensive coordinator Clyde Christensen said recently that “every practice we’ve put him in, he’s made something happen.”
Grant said he wasn’t given a reason he has played so little on offense, and Gase was vague when asked whether he doesn’t want to show other teams how they plan to use him.
“I would like to play on offense and continue to prove I’m a great receiver,” Grant said.
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article98250572.html
 
2016:

(1) Tunsil
(2) Howard
(3) Drake / Caroo

2015:

(1) Davante Parker
(2) Jordan Philips
(3) No pick

2014:

(1) Ja'Wuan James
(2) Jarvis Landry
(3) Billy Turner

2013:

(1) Dion Jordan
(2) Jamar Taylor
(3) Dallas Thomas

2012:

(1) Ryan Tannehill
(2) Jonathon Martin
(3) Olivier Vernon

2011:

(1) Mike Pouncey
(2) Daniel Thomas
(3) Edmund Gates

2010:

(1) Jared Odrick
(2) Koa Misi
(3) John Jerry

2009:

(1) Vontae Davis
(2) Pat White
(3) Sean Smith

2008:

(1) Jake Long
(2) Phillip Merling
(3) Chad Henne

2007:

(1) Ted Ginn Jr
(2) John Beck
(3) Samson Satele

Not 1 All Pro player drafted in the first 3 rounds over last 10 years. Only 1 bona fide proven difference maker on the roster from the names above. Jury is still out on a couple but you can't expect a lot of success when you draft like this. Development and retention is another issue.

The Drake and Caroo picks are setting up to be 2 more examples of poor scouting and draft day decision making.
 
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I have said it often to many of my friends that it is borderline criminal that some of the scouts in the NFL have jobs because they are stealing money from their teams. I am sorry and I know it is not an exact science, but if bat below 25% on your picks then you should not have a job.
 
2016:

(1) Tunsil
(2) Howard
(3) Drake / Caroo

2015:

(1) Davante Parker
(2) Jordan Philips
(3) No pick

2014:

(1) Ja'Wuan James
(2) Jarvis Landry
(3) Billy Turner

2013:

(1) Dion Jordan
(2) Jamar Taylor
(3) Dallas Thomas

2012:

(1) Ryan Tannehill
(2) Jonathon Martin
(3) Olivier Vernon

2011:

(1) Mike Pouncey
(2) Daniel Thomas
(3) Edmund Gates

2010:

(1) Jared Odrick
(2) Koa Misi
(3) John Jerry

2009:

(1) Vontae Davis
(2) Pat White
(3) Sean Smith

2008:

(1) Jake Long
(2) Phillip Merling
(3) Chad Henne

2007:

(1) Ted Ginn Jr
(2) John Beck
(3) Samson Satele

Not 1 All Pro player drafted in the first 3 rounds over last 10 years. Only 1 bona fide proven difference maker on the roster from the names above. Jury is still out on a couple but you can't expect a lot of success when you draft like this. Development and retention is another issue.

The Drake and Caroo picks are setting up to be 2 more examples of poor scouting and draft day decision making.

The rest of your post is appropriate, but are you really gonna dump on this years picks after all of 3 preseason games???? Caroo's ceiling for this year is supposed to be 4th WR. It's WAY too early to say he won't fill that role well. And I hated the Drake pick myself, but I'm willing to let him get on the field a bit before I pass any real judgement on it.
 
The rest of your post is appropriate, but are you really gonna dump on this years picks after all of 3 preseason games???? Caroo's ceiling for this year is supposed to be 4th WR. It's WAY too early to say he won't fill that role well. And I hated the Drake pick myself, but I'm willing to let him get on the field a bit before I pass any real judgement on it.
Not passing a final judgement which is why I used the words "setting up." I expect a 3rd rounder to get on the field in practice and preseason games and show us something. He's been invisible. And if his ceiling this year is a 4th WR, why in the world are they moving up to grab that when there are far bigger holes to be concerned with.
 
Not passing a final judgement which is why I used the words "setting up." I expect a 3rd rounder to get on the field in practice and preseason games and show us something. He's been invisible. And if his ceiling this year is a 4th WR, why in the world are they moving up to grab that when there are far bigger holes to be concerned with.

On average third round picks aren't expected to start in the first season. Reports from practice have been largely positive about him, and he's posted the same stats as Parker in the preseason. Whether you are making a final judgement on either Drake or Carroo or not, frankly the criticism of either pick is premature.
 
2014:

(2) Jarvis Landry

2011:

(1) Mike Pouncey

2009:

(1) Vontae Davis

2008:

(1) Jake Long

Not 1 All Pro player drafted in the first 3 rounds over last 10 years. Only 1 bona fide proven difference maker on the roster from the names above. Jury is still out on a couple but you can't expect a lot of success when you draft like this. Development and retention is another issue.

The Drake and Caroo picks are setting up to be 2 more examples of poor scouting and draft day decision making.

I understand what you're saying and the point you're making, but Jake Long and Vontae Davis (albeit with Indy) have been All-Pros. Jarvis went to the Pro Bowl last season and Pouncey has been to multiple. It is too early to tell but by all indication Parker and Tunsil will be there soon and god willing so will Tannehill.
 
Not passing a final judgement which is why I used the words "setting up." I expect a 3rd rounder to get on the field in practice and preseason games and show us something. He's been invisible. And if his ceiling this year is a 4th WR, why in the world are they moving up to grab that when there are far bigger holes to be concerned with.

I think thats the issue. We spent premium assets on Drake and Caroo with immediate roles for them in mind. Caroo was expected to compete against Stills for the #3 job, and now its not clear whether he is even ahead of Whalen for #4. Drake was supposed to be a change of pace back, but he can't even get on the field. Caroo is a bigger deal for me since we gave up 2 future picks for him, those picks would be nice to have to spend on our defense.
 
I understand what you're saying and the point you're making, but Jake Long and Vontae Davis (albeit with Indy) have been All-Pros. Jarvis went to the Pro Bowl last season and Pouncey has been to multiple. It is too early to tell but by all indication Parker and Tunsil will be there soon and god willing so will Tannehill.

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I stand corrected. Long was an All Pro. He was the wrong pick but that's for a different debate. Davis was jettisoned which speaks to development and retention.

I know you understand the difference between All Pro and the ever more diluted Pro Bowl selection. Agreed on being to soon on the youngsters. Carroo and Drake are not off to good starts.


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I think thats the issue. We spent premium assets on Drake and Caroo with immediate roles for them in mind. Caroo was expected to compete against Stills for the #3 job, and now its not clear whether he is even ahead of Whalen for #4. Drake was supposed to be a change of pace back, but he can't even get on the field. Caroo is a bigger deal for me since we gave up 2 future picks for him, those picks would be nice to have to spend on our defense.

That's why I'm so critical of that Carroo pick. The team is not in a position to sacrifice picks to compete for a spot when we have serious issues on the defensive side of the ball.


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I think thats the issue. We spent premium assets on Drake and Caroo with immediate roles for them in mind. Caroo was expected to compete against Stills for the #3 job, and now its not clear whether he is even ahead of Whalen for #4. Drake was supposed to be a change of pace back, but he can't even get on the field. Caroo is a bigger deal for me since we gave up 2 future picks for him, those picks would be nice to have to spend on our defense.

I think you are being a bit impatient. Maybe even a little dramatic in Drakes case.


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Caroo was unnecessary indeed. I love the Grant pick but he was a 6th rounder. We have Matt Hazel who could probably have more success this year and in the future then Caroo will
 
2016:

(1) Tunsil
(2) Howard
(3) Drake / Caroo

2015:

(1) Davante Parker
(2) Jordan Philips
(3) No pick

2014:

(1) Ja'Wuan James
(2) Jarvis Landry
(3) Billy Turner

2013:

(1) Dion Jordan
(2) Jamar Taylor
(3) Dallas Thomas

2012:

(1) Ryan Tannehill
(2) Jonathon Martin
(3) Olivier Vernon

2011:

(1) Mike Pouncey
(2) Daniel Thomas
(3) Edmund Gates

2010:

(1) Jared Odrick
(2) Koa Misi
(3) John Jerry

2009:

(1) Vontae Davis
(2) Pat White
(3) Sean Smith

2008:

(1) Jake Long
(2) Phillip Merling
(3) Chad Henne

2007:

(1) Ted Ginn Jr
(2) John Beck
(3) Samson Satele

Not 1 All Pro player drafted in the first 3 rounds over last 10 years. Only 1 bona fide proven difference maker on the roster from the names above. Jury is still out on a couple but you can't expect a lot of success when you draft like this. Development and retention is another issue.

The Drake and Caroo picks are setting up to be 2 more examples of poor scouting and draft day decision making.

2013 called, they want their draft busts back.
 
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