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Type of Coach, Type of WR, Type of CB, Type of QB we need

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If anyone has watched the Dolphins over the last couple years you should know that 90% of the time our defense has played good enough for us to win.

Most of our loses have been the result of poor offensive performances in either the running game, the passing game, or both.

What that means is that we need to find a combination of:
1. A coach and/or offensive coordinator whose specialty is game planning: finding the weaknesses of the opposing teams defense and exploiting it. A coach and/or offensive coordinator who is creative in both the running game and the passing game. I don't mean a reverse to Chris Chambers or an half back pass either. A lot of our losses have come from being outcoached/out game planned, especially in the meaningful games. Once we find that creative mind then we have to give him some tools to work with. As mediocre as our CBs, Safeties, and other 2 LBs are, we can still win with them if we get a coach and/or offensive coordinator that fits the above requirements.
2. We need a QB who can make all the throws required of a top-tier QB. The other teams defense has to have some fear that you can go deep with accuracy on them on a consistent basis. That will open up the running game even more and also open up the short to midrange passing game. For that reason, I don't think Harrington is our answer. Our best bet a the QB position is a healthy Daunte, another quality veteran QB, Cleo Lemon, or a top-tier Rookie QB.
3. Chris Chambers is probably one of the greatest football puzzles of this century. There probably isn't another WR that makes as many acrobatic catches as he does while dropping the easy ones, and most importantly being shutdown on a regular basis by ordinary DBs and ordinary defenses. The drops we can probably live with, If he was making 80-100 receptions a year. Is it Chris Chambers himself, our QB, or our offensive schemes. Unless we get a coach and/or offensive coordinator that opens up the offense or trade or release him we won't ever find out at the rate we're going. You can game plan all you want against Steve Smith of Carolina, he is still going to get his 6 to 11 receptions against you. Which means our problem is either CC, our offense game plans, or both. If it's CC we need to find out soon and start looking for his replacement sooner than later.
4. Plain and simple: WE NEED A SHUTDOWN CORNERBACK. Our best corner back is Will Allen, and in my opinion he can be picked on as much as Travis Daniel can be picked on.

If we can find these TYPE of coaches and players then we'll be in position to play with the big boys (Andy Reid, Bellichek, etc), otherwise we'll continue to be outcoached and outplayed and continue to be a 8-8 or worse team!

It's going to be difficult if not impossible to find a really good offensive coordinator unless he comes from the college ranks. The good offensive coordinators in the NFL are either going to be chosen as coaches or they'll be retained by their current teams.

With that said, our best bet is to hire one of the top three offensive coordinators as our HEAD COACH and have him implement his system through his chosen offensive coordinator, or have him call the plays himself. Keep Don Capers as our Defensive Coordinator and infuse some new blood in the WR, CB, Safety, and LB positions. Those are the PLAYMAKING POSITIONS where we're lacking.
 
ok guys lets draft chris leak now. this kid knows how to win and is much lyk vince young but a much better passer
 
ok guys lets draft chris leak now. this kid knows how to win and is much lyk vince young but a much better passer

and about a foot shorter and half as fast.. :) He might be okay though...
 
I agree with your thoughts on how the big dofference between us and other teams is coaching. Teams like the Jets don't havemuch more talent then us, but their coaching is far superior.
I dont agree with your statement that Crowder is mediocre. He is very young and is getting the job done.
As far as QB goes, we dont need a peyton or marino. With ronnie and possibly ricky running the ball we need a game manager. We juust need somebody who wont lose the game for us. He doesn't need to single handedly win the game with 50 yards bombs.
 
If anyone has watched the Dolphins over the last couple years you should know that 90% of the time our defense has played good enough for us to win.

Most of our loses have been the result of poor offensive performances in either the running game, the passing game, or both.

What that means is that we need to find a combination of:
1. A coach and/or offensive coordinator whose specialty is game planning: finding the weaknesses of the opposing teams defense and exploiting it. A coach and/or offensive coordinator who is creative in both the running game and the passing game. I don't mean a reverse to Chris Chambers or an half back pass either. A lot of our losses have come from being outcoached/out game planned, especially in the meaningful games. Once we find that creative mind then we have to give him some tools to work with. As mediocre as our CBs, Safeties, and other 2 LBs are, we can still win with them if we get a coach and/or offensive coordinator that fits the above requirements.
2. We need a QB who can make all the throws required of a top-tier QB. The other teams defense has to have some fear that you can go deep with accuracy on them on a consistent basis. That will open up the running game even more and also open up the short to midrange passing game. For that reason, I don't think Harrington is our answer. Our best bet a the QB position is a healthy Daunte, another quality veteran QB, Cleo Lemon, or a top-tier Rookie QB.
3. Chris Chambers is probably one of the greatest football puzzles of this century. There probably isn't another WR that makes as many acrobatic catches as he does while dropping the easy ones, and most importantly being shutdown on a regular basis by ordinary DBs and ordinary defenses. The drops we can probably live with, If he was making 80-100 receptions a year. Is it Chris Chambers himself, our QB, or our offensive schemes. Unless we get a coach and/or offensive coordinator that opens up the offense or trade or release him we won't ever find out at the rate we're going. You can game plan all you want against Steve Smith of Carolina, he is still going to get his 6 to 11 receptions against you. Which means our problem is either CC, our offense game plans, or both. If it's CC we need to find out soon and start looking for his replacement sooner than later.
4. Plain and simple: WE NEED A SHUTDOWN CORNERBACK. Our best corner back is Will Allen, and in my opinion he can be picked on as much as Travis Daniel can be picked on.

If we can find these TYPE of coaches and players then we'll be in position to play with the big boys (Andy Reid, Bellichek, etc), otherwise we'll continue to be outcoached and outplayed and continue to be a 8-8 or worse team!

It's going to be difficult if not impossible to find a really good offensive coordinator unless he comes from the college ranks. The good offensive coordinators in the NFL are either going to be chosen as coaches or they'll be retained by their current teams.

With that said, our best bet is to hire one of the top three offensive coordinators as our HEAD COACH and have him implement his system through his chosen offensive coordinator, or have him call the plays himself. Keep Don Capers as our Defensive Coordinator and infuse some new blood in the WR, CB, Safety, and LB positions. Those are the PLAYMAKING POSITIONS where we're lacking.

We have been through seven offensive coordinators these past nine or ten years... including Chan Gailey, Norv Turner, Scott Linehan, and now Mike Mularkey.

Mularkey becomes the Dolphins' fourth offensive coordinator since May 2004, and the seventh since Gary Stevens was fired following the 1997 season.
from this link.

No wonder there is no continuity on offense ... seven offensive coordinators since the end of the 1997 season. IMO, no team can compete in the NFL today with such a turnover on offense.

IMO, the offense needs two to three seasons of stability - even with a struggling QB. Every time a new offensive coordinator is hired, it often takes time for the offenser to mature as the players need 10-to-20 games or more to learn the offense in a manner the team can score 21+ points consistently week-in and week-out and compete in today's NFL.

IMO, changing head coaches means, quite possibly, a new offensive coordinator - and another season or more learning a new offense and offensive system.
 
We got 20 million and 22 vacant starters need. veteran minimum is 1 million next year lol.... explain how we going to make the cap work ?
 
Good post, thanks for the read. I would say we've got the QB you describe IF Daunte comes back fully to his 2004 form. We will then learn once and for all whether Chambers can get it done or not (not - IMHO).

You neglected the OL, which our coaching staff has done the last 5-6 years, which is why we have so many problems on offense. We MUST build a powerful OL, no NFL team or QB is worth anything, that doesn't have a top flight OL. Put a GOOD enough OL in front of DC and RB/RW and you will see lots of serious improvement in our offense. We have a good enough coach for OL in Hudson Houck, but we have GOT to draft some serious OL and give the guy some talent to work with. Or we're doomed to offensive mediocrity and failure.
 
before you answer any of these questions, the first thing we need is a strong, capable, intelligent GM. maybe mueller is the guy. but we need someone to head up personnel and contracts, someone to run the football operations - the 'head coach as god' approach isn't successful, for the most part. there are exceptions (belichek, parcells) but they're few. look at san diego, baltimore, chicago, indy, philly, new orleans...

then, the coach should come from an offensive background. lose mularkey (he was brutal in buffalo, why wouldn't he be brutal here...), find an oc compatible with the philosophy of the new gm and head coach. retain capers, or if necessary replace with a young guy.

the qb - as noted in a different thread, with petrino gone brohm may declare, resulting in brohm/russell/quinn in the first ten picks. i'd be happy with whoever is available from those three at # 9. draft the franchise qb. your qb situation in '07 is culpepper or harrington (but not both), lemon and the rookie - the rookie starts in '08, or earlier.

the wr - get a speed guy, someone to stretch the defenses. clearly chambers/booker/hagan/welker do not fit the bill. if there's not one on the roster now (which seems to be the case) or in the draft (which there could be), then maybe you look at kevin curtis.

re the salary cap - this is why you need an experienced guy running the team, someone who understands this stuff, with a strong evaluation ability. i'd suspect mueller can be that guy. i just read that parcells wanted the gm job with the giants but was rebuffed - maybe he'd like to be gm in south florida. give him a cap/contract specialist (as exists in other franchises), and we could be in business. just my opinion....
 
We have been through seven offensive coordinators these past nine or ten years... including Chan Gailey, Norv Turner, Scott Linehan, and now Mike Mularkey.

from this link.

No wonder there is no continuity on offense ... seven offensive coordinators since the end of the 1997 season. IMO, no team can compete in the NFL today with such a turnover on offense.

IMO, the offense needs two to three seasons of stability - even with a struggling QB. Every time a new offensive coordinator is hired, it often takes time for the offenser to mature as the players need 10-to-20 games or more to learn the offense in a manner the team can score 21+ points consistently week-in and week-out and compete in today's NFL.

IMO, changing head coaches means, quite possibly, a new offensive coordinator - and another season or more learning a new offense and offensive system.

I agree. This is why I would like to hire a young guy that the team can grow with. Even if it means we have to take a step back before going forward. The problem is that whenever you get a goodcoordinator they usually leave after a year or two. But then again we haven't had very good OC's and they haven't lasted very long either.
 
As for QB, we need a field general. A guy who relies on his mind rather than his arm or physical abilities. It's those guys that go to the playoffs and win Super Bowls, not the athletic ones.
 
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