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UNBIASED Scouting Report of Tannehill vs. Bills

Mainge said:
Ah, I see my video has made it's way over here. Glad you guys seem to like it.

Figured I'd weigh in on what most of the discussion seems to be about. As someone that sees every pass attempt thrown in the NFL each weak, I don't think you should grade that throw to Hartline in a negative fashion. Was it under thrown? Yeah, a little. Hartline had to slow up a bit, but that's a pretty common site to see in the NFL, especially on throws of that distance. The contention that the defensive back broke it up is untrue, as you can see the ball cleanly makes it to Hartline untouched from the All-22 camera. missing by a yard or two on a throw that traveled over 60 yards in the air is to be expected.

I think there's plenty of other areas to criticize Tannehill in that you don't have to nitpick on that throw.
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Thank you for some sanity!
 
BlueFin said:
Thank you for some sanity!
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I wasn't nickping and after reading what I posted I backtracked some. It was a pretty good throw that should have been caught. My main point is that Hartline had to slow up instead of run in full stride for a TD. Again it was a very long throw. This is probably my 5th or 6th comment in this thread stating this. I even updated the main post. Idk how many more times I can say it, and unlike many here I have the humility to admit when I'm off base.
 
And just to put this out there.. Connor Cook and Brett Hundley are not upgrades to RT. This team won't be in position for Winston or Mariota, and even they come with question marks..
 
If the ball is thrown 4 yards further whose to say it doesn't still go right through Hartline's hands?
 
I would have rated our QB a little lower as he probably would himself. The good news is we seem to be calling plays that get our receivers in position to make big plays. I think it will come and i'm really hoping for a big game from Ryan this week.

Thanks for the effort OP :up:
 
fishfanmiami said:
I would have rated our QB a little lower as he probably would himself. The good news is we seem to be calling plays that get our receivers in position to make big plays. I think it will come and i'm really hoping for a big game from Ryan this week.

Thanks for the effort OP :up:
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I gave the grade a lot of thought. He was really hurt by the drops. And even though he didn't get the win, his ball placement and play speed looked much better this week. If he hits the TD to Wallace on the post, I would have upgraded him to a B. The 4 batted passes and pocket movement were my biggest complaints.
 
I thought for a minute we were back playing the Texans in Ryan's first game with us. Hope the batted passes are not a recurring problem .
Also i thought at least one sack was on him holding the ball too long.
That said if Sims , Hartline and Wallace in the corner TD passes are completed we probably win and Ryan's in consideration for offensive player of the week. Small margin of error in the NFL.
 
rent this space said:
If the ball is thrown 4 yards further whose to say it doesn't still go right through Hartline's hands?
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No one. It would have just been a much better placed pass that should have been caught but was dropped. No one said Hartline shouldn't have caught it either way or that Tannehill underthrowing it just a bit is what caused Hartline to drop it. Personally, as I said before, the ball should have been caught. It was certainly not one of Tannehill's worst throws of the game, either, but it is exactly the kind of throw that is driving people crazy. I know even the best QBs in the league miss on deep balls, but they also hit them with far more regularity than Tannehill has as well.

Hartline had like two steps on the guy and there was no safety even remotely close until just as the ball was landing. On shots like that, the receiver should not have to slow up to catch it. It should be an easy walk-in touchdown. Bad on Hartline for dropping what was still a very catchable ball. But also bad on Tannehill for poor ball placement. Nitpicky as the one pass may be in a vacuum, it still remains true, and when combined with all the other awfully placed throws (including several very short passes) so far, it paints a bit of a disconcerting picture. Not yet in permanent ink, but definitely getting there.
 
Tannenballs said:
And just to put this out there.. Connor Cook and Brett Hundley are not upgrades to RT. This team won't be in position for Winston or Mariota, and even they come with question marks..
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Personally (ie just my pov), I don't think you do your unbiased analysis in the OP any favours with definitive statements like that. Fulltime professional scouts would probably give their eye teeth to have those kind of predictive powers about college QBs only a few weeks into their season, or even on draft day for that matter.

NOBODY in the entire sport can be definitive like that. As you did in the OP, why not evaluate what you believe and why about Cook and Hundley. Even then, it's a projection to try to apply that evaluation to the NFL and a further projection to guess if the outcome would be more or less successful than we have with Tannehill.
 
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