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just read a nice article about Devon Godchaux.
For any given team, Does anyone know how many 7th rounders or UDFAs make a roster? How many play?
 
I'm don't know the exact number, but I would guess somewhere between 20 and 25 7th round picks make an NFL 53 man roster and most make at least a practice squad. Also guess about 30 udfa make 53 man rosters. If you figure each team has at least 7 or 8 udfa's in camp that's about 30 out of 250 league wide.

You stated you read an article about Godchaux an then asked about 7th round picks and UDFA, just making sure you knew that Godchaux was a 5th round pick. Maybe Godchaux statement and the question were completely unrelated.
 
jnozag said:
interesting post, thanks for sharing. I found this rather intriguing: Undrafted players (14%) were the 3rd most likely group to comprise 2014’s starters…only behind 1st round (30%) and 2nd round (18%) picks.
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That is interesting. I always hear that the draft is a crapshoot but this really emphasizes how difficult it must be to evaluate players.
 
jnozag said:
interesting post, thanks for sharing. I found this rather intriguing: Undrafted players (14%) were the 3rd most likely group to comprise 2014’s starters…only behind 1st round (30%) and 2nd round (18%) picks.
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The pool of undrafted players is much, much larger than the pool of players chosen in rounds 3-7, and the talent gap between the two isn't significant enough to override the simple mathematical probabilities.
 
TedSlimmJr said:
The pool of undrafted players is much, much larger than the pool of players chosen in rounds 3-7, and the talent gap between the two isn't significant enough to override the simple mathematical probabilities.
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For example Jalen Davis (undrafted) is as good as the corner we did draft (Armstrong). Davis had a 3rd round grade from numerous sites I saw. There's many kids like him who fall through the cracks
 
TedSlimmJr said:
The pool of undrafted players is much, much larger than the pool of players chosen in rounds 3-7, and the talent gap between the two isn't significant enough to override the simple mathematical probabilities.
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I see your point but there's still tons of talent in the third round and that's where the drop-off seems to be. I think it says more that the draft is difficult to nail since there are so many drafted guys that don't pan out and so much talent that doesn't make it in.
 
So much is decided by need as much as talent. Going undrafted is often better than getting drafted late because you, instead of the team, gets to pick where you go. You get to see where your talent might help a squad rather than a team just trying to pick up camp fodder.
 
Jssanto said:
That is interesting. I always hear that the draft is a crapshoot but this really emphasizes how difficult it must be to evaluate players.
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It also illustrates how important your scouting truly is in building a team . Most of the top picks are politics and power based. While the lower rounds and UDFA are where quality scouting truly build your roster.

That first hour after the draft truly is about who did their homework.
 
KTOWNFINFAN said:
So much is decided by need as much as talent. Going undrafted is often better than getting drafted late because you, instead of the team, gets to pick where you go. You get to see where your talent might help a squad rather than a team just trying to pick up camp fodder.
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Great point in those later rounds teams especially start trying to plug holes with need picks more than grabbing the best player available. I enjoy attempting to forcast the position and rounds and sometime the players the phins pick every year. Didn't see the safety in the first but he looks likes the best player in that round cool. But a TE LB in the first 3 rounds a rb in the 4th and kicker in the 7th nailed it. Figured a saftey in the 4th instead of another TE and DT on the first 3 rounds. Point is you have to be careful when drafting for needs more than talent because first you end up with a under talented roster and 2nd other teams will jump your picks during the draft.
 
Also remember that there were once 17 rounds of drafting - and even then, you had guys that went undrafted such as Jim Langer - HOF and one of the best centers to ever play.

There are a lot of examples of guys taken in the double digit rounds who had excellent careers etc.

I realize we have more teams and larger rosters now but still.
 
royalshank said:
Also remember that there were once 17 rounds of drafting - and even then, you had guys that went undrafted such as Jim Langer - HOF and one of the best centers to ever play.
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The maximum is actually 32 rounds!

royalshank said:
There are a lot of examples of guys taken in the double digit rounds who had excellent careers etc.
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Nick Buoniconti - 13th round. And there's one Hall of Famer (Roosevelt Brown) taken in the 27th round in 1953! The 321st pick. The greatest OT of his era. That guy might not even be signed as an UDFA nowadays.
 
sunworshipper said:
The maximum is actually 32 rounds!


Nick Buoniconti - 13th round. And there's one Hall of Famer (Roosevelt Brown) taken in the 27th round in 1953! The 321st pick. The greatest OT of his era. That guy might not even be signed as an UDFA nowadays.
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Great find on Roosevelt Brown and setting me straight on the number of rounds. I had 17 in my head for some reason or another.
 
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