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This article will get u sick. Sherman does not exploit mismatches and runs a very simplistic "progression read system" a progression read system is elementary, primitive. QBs are told in pop warner how to "go through progressions." Its one of the first things u learn as like a 10 year old playing QB on jr pee wee to top it off we run it out of a go, go-go cadence. Credit to tannehill for being forced to run a "progression read offense" in 2013 with no oline, no running game. Tannehill will never develop under this system and & probably would have had a better season in an offense that fits his strengths. http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...rdinator-mike-sherman-ryan-tannehill/4304511/
 
Sherman is like crabs! Once they're here they are tough to get rid of, but no one wants them. Accept the Dolphins of course
 
forgive me, but isn't this the same offense he was under in college?

Sherman's offense right?
 
forgive me, but isn't this the same offense he was under in college?

Sherman's offense right?

It's the same offense he sucked with in college. Time for change and get rid of Sherman, Tannehill needs to break out of his shell with a better system.
 
Yes @evildylan and thats the problem its a very simplistic style of offense he needs to graduate from that stale bland system
 
Yes @evildylan and thats the problem its a very simplistic style of offense he needs to graduate from that stale bland system

I just wondering what people expected. It's the same coach he's had, it's the same offense. There should have been this much outrage when Sherman was hired as OC, not 2 years later. It's no surprise what offense he's running.
 
He'll never develop yet he's putting up numbers we haven't seen since Marino. And weren't we close to accomplishing something never done in franchise history before having 3 receivers gaining more than 800 yards each or something?
 
"Tannehill is diplomatic on the subject..., and they may not do much better until they find someone to bring their offense into the 21st century." - Nuff said - Ugh!
 
This article apparently validates something I've always thought:

A defense can dictate, to a wide degree, where a Progression-Base offense goes with the ball. This is not good!!!
 
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This article apparently validates something I've always thought:

A defense can dictate to a wide degree where an Progression-Base offense goes with the ball
. This is not good!!!

Especially if you're predictable with the kind of route combinations you run out of certain formations. The defense can go to a presnap alignment that dictates where the ball should be going and then rotate to a coverage designed to take away certain route combinations.

I don't think there's anything wrong with progression read. The article makes it sound like it's some antiquated part of football, like run blocking tight ends or the Pro Set. Progression read is imo the right strategy when your receivers are all at about the same skill level and have about the same skills. Look at Green Bay, especially when they had Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson. All of those guys do about the same things well. You can line them up anywhere and run the same route combinations (though iirc the Packers were no more flexible with their outside/slot designations than we are). So why not use a progression read system and go to the guy who's the most open?

The Dolphins don't have that kind of receiving core. Hartline and Wallace do completely different things well, as does Matthews. That creates a kind of predictability which progression read hopes to avoid (since the defense is willing to let you do things you do poorly, obviously). With Wallace in particular, you have to be willing to take your shot when the defense gives you a certain alignment. Going deep is the only thing he does well. If you're not willing to maximize the talent he does have, then just get rid of him.
 
This article apparently validates something I've always thought:

A defense can dictate to a wide degree where an Progression-Base offense goes with the ball. This is not good!!!

Isn't that true of every type of offense? Peyton Manning gladly takes what the defense gives him, thats why they have to fight so hard to try not to show their hand to him.
 
Especially if you're predictable with the kind of route combinations you run out of certain formations. The defense can go to a presnap alignment that dictates where the ball should be going and then rotate to a coverage designed to take away certain route combinations.

I don't think there's anything wrong with progression read. The article makes it sound like it's some antiquated part of football, like run blocking tight ends or the Pro Set. Progression read is imo the right strategy when your receivers are all at about the same skill level and have about the same skills. Look at Green Bay, especially when they had Greg Jennings, James Jones and Jordy Nelson. All of those guys do about the same things well. You can line them up anywhere and run the same route combinations (though iirc the Packers were no more flexible with their outside/slot designations than we are). So why not use a progression read system and go to the guy who's the most open?
The Dolphins don't have that kind of receiving core. Hartline and Wallace do completely different things well, as does Matthews. That creates a kind of predictability which progression read hopes to avoid (since the defense is willing to let you do things you do poorly, obviously). With Wallace in particular, you have to be willing to take your shot when the defense gives you a certain alignment. Going deep is the only thing he does well. If you're not willing to maximize the talent he does have, then just get rid of him.

:clap:

miami is definitely predictable with the route combinations we employ...
 
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