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Validation Sunday for the Miami Dolphins
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Does it really take 9 paragraphs to say that the Dolphins have to win tomorrow?
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Sorry. I will try to keep it to 140 characters next time.
Hayden screw those idiots who complain about the long read. I enjoy well thought out posts and you've done great. Although I don't necessarily agree with everything you post I do really appreciate what you bring to this site!
Tannehill is a stud and he's only getting better. Get this guy some protection like Brady gets and he becomes elite.
Philbin makes some dumb gameday decisions every week, but like the talent on the team he is still developing as a very young coach, I know he's old but he has 2 years experience as being the lead man.
Sherman has driven me crazy at times but if the players execute and the line blocks then he no longer will get scrutinized at least not as much as he is now with the lack of athletes that fit his offense.
Tannehill is a stud and he's only getting better. Get this guy some protection like Brady gets and he becomes elite.
Philbin makes some dumb gameday decisions every week, but like the talent on the team he is still developing as a very young coach, I know he's old but he has 2 years experience as being the lead man.
Sherman has driven me crazy at times but if the players execute and the line blocks then he no longer will get scrutinized at least not as much as he is now with the lack of athletes that fit his offense.
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I'd like the Dolphins to make a statement tomorrow.
Joe Philbin has a great opportunity to really win me back. Now, I'm sure he's not coaching to win me back, but he still has the opportunity. :)
Joe Philbin has a great opportunity to really win me back. Now, I'm sure he's not coaching to win me back, but he still has the opportunity. :)
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I would like the Fins to simply win.
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Not sure. If you are comparing Joe to a Hall of Fame coach, I think we should pump our breaks some. Just because both are NFL coaches, stoic and tall and thin does not make them clones of each other.
Hayden is right on the money. A loss and the whole season has the feel of a failure. Especially to 2 division rivals when we had the Playoffs in sight and controlled our own destiny. The fans will really turn on this franchise imo. Anger, apathy and question marks or progress and hope. Giant game. As big a game as we've had in years. We better win or else....
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I bet the "league circles" are getting smaller.
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I wrote this prior to Sunday's game... Let's see where we are at this time
It cannot be overstated how important this Sunday's game is for the Miami Dolphins and major participants of the organization. A win Sunday and the team has a winning season and can boast progress. A win and some help from around the league, the team makes the jump to the playoffs. A loss puts a dark cloud over the entire organization and it could possibly reverberate for years to come.
There is a "dark cloud" over this team. Depending on the decisions that are made in the next few days, this lose could reverberate for a long time. The Fins needed a win and they would be in the tournament.
There are many that have a ton on the line Sunday. Perhaps no other person has more on the line than GM Jeff Ireland. Out of anyone in the organization, Jeff Ireland has the most to lose Sunday. If the Fins fall up short, it seems like Ireland could be the fall guy. True enough Ireland has had many years on the job. However, if the Fins drop two in a row to finish the season, the team will look for someone to blame. I feel for Ireland. I think he has done an okay job, but he routinely is blamed for anything that goes wrong while the coaching staff skates by heavy criticism or the players' execution is not nearly discussed enough. I could not imagine being in Ireland's spot heading to the stadium Sunday. Be that as it may, if the team wins, Ireland can show progress and that his moves are paying off. He can claim that continuity is needed for more success and not more change. While people want Ireland's head, they should also realize that a new GM from outside the organization with no prior connection to the current head coach typically fails. Eventually, that new GM will want his own head coach. If the team does not have wild success next year, fans could be looking at another coaching change and purging of the roster. While that might be necessary, it also puts the team further and further away from being relevant within the league. True enough, I am not a huge Jeff Ireland guy and I might be the strongest critic of Joe Philbin on this site. However, I am tired of starting over. I want to try something for a few years. Maybe it works. What does not work is consistently starting over.
Jeff Ireland will be canned IMO at some point this week. As stated above, "forced marriages" typically fail. If Philbin is kept and an outside GM is hired, Philbin will need success or else we are going through Black Monday festivities next year.
The day is huge for Mr. Ross. Steve Ross has a chance to get into his first playoffs. He has made mistakes, but I truly think he wants to win. He might not know how to win exactly, but I think he hurts for success. From his commitment to re-signing players, to signing free agents to big deals to making sure games are not blacked out locally, Ross has tried. A win and a playoff spot will validate his efforts. A loss and one wonders if Ross will feel alone in the wilderness of the NFL.
What a huge week for Mr. Ross. He needs wisdom this week and chart a path for his franchise. Ross still seems like a neophyte owner. However, he needs to provide leadership or else his team could sink deeper into the abyss.
Joe Philbin's career can go many ways after Sunday. Philbin has done a good job keeping the team together through the Jonathan Martin situation. Win on Sunday, and at the very least, he can boast a 9-7 record. Win and get help, and Philbin can claim to be a coach that got his team to the tournament in his second year. Simply winning Sunday shows improvement in the coach's record and if somehow he makes the playoffs, Philbin can be looked at as a longterm answer in Miami. A loss, and Philbin will be stained with the mark of losing to two division teams with a playoff spot within grasp with two weeks remaining in the season. After more than half of dozen coaches are fired at the end of the year, Joe Philbin will be viewed as endangered to start next season. The progress, or lack thereof, will be monitored all of the 2014 season. Questions will abound of whether Philbin will return if the team is at or below .500. IF a new GM replaces Jeff Ireland...one that is from outside the organization...there will be speculation all year of will the new GM want "his guy"? While that day is biggest for Ireland, Joe Philbin might have the most to gain or lose Sunday.
Joe Philbin will stick around IMO. However, there is a disconnect of shaking up of the GM and OC as if that will solve the issues. Joe Philbin could have had a winning record and a playoff birth in his second season. Instead, his team melted down and Philbin had no answer to help his team get over the top. Joe Philbin will enter the 2014 season on the hot seat. He will be a lame duck.
Ryan Tannehill can join the other great QB's from his draft class by making the playoffs. While he is the forgotten guy in the 2012 draft class, Tannehill has shown well early in his career. QB's are labeled ultimately by wins and losses. Win Sunday and he can claim a winning season. Get into the playoffs and he can be mentioned with the Andrew Luck's and Russell Wilson's. Lose and there will be an entire offseason of debate of who exactly Ryan Tannehill is as a QB. Is he developing like he should? Is he really "the guy"? Can he get the franchise over the hump? All of these questions will come about if the team drops the game to the Jets.
Ryan Tannehill had a good season. Unfortunately, he laid an egg yesterday and all the negative comparisons come out of the woodwork. Andrew Luck, RGIII, Nick Foles and Russell Wilson have now all made the playoffs as part of the 2012 draft class. He will have a new OC and the pressure will be on him to produce even more next year.
The free agent additions were debated all year. Did they sign the right guys? Did they pay too much for certain players? Can you win by going in big with free agency? All of those questions have a certain answer based on the scoreboard Sunday. I supported the moves for the most part in the spring. I will not lie...it made the offseason very exciting. With that said, we will see if those moves warrant applause or criticism.
The free agent additions will be killed simply because the team did not win yesterday. It is vital to give this group year two to see if they were worth money. Year two is when new FA's can make an impact typically.
As funny as this sounds, the Dolphins FO, coaching staff and players have been destroyed by various talking heads in the media. People like Heath Evans, Louis Riddick, Mike Florio and Jason Laconfora have made it their weekly hobby to kill something about this team. With a win on Sunday...and maybe a playoff spot, the media that have routinely ripped the team from its style of play, to how the roster was made, to the Martin/Incognito situation can now be ripped via Dolfans. Lose and those media personalities will be relentless for the next six months.
From Jason Laconfora to Mike Florio to Heath Evans....they rejoice today....it is sickening.
This game is huge for the fans. I feel fans want to buy in. They want to feel they are heading the right way. They want to believe their team is in good hands. A win or go home scenario on Sunday, versus a bitter rival at home, Dolfans need a win. If not, the franchise will have the hardest time with their fans going into the future. Seeing will not even be believing for them in the years ahead. Alienation and apathy could result from the average Dolphin fan if they are to drop Sunday's game to Jets. "Same old Dolphins" is what you will hear. A win is vital to the fan base and the team's future.
This is the lowest I have seen this fan base in awhile. Between the getting help and not being able to win a game...at home...vs. a bitter rival. Dolphins fans seem lost...and I cannot blame them. The lack of leadership is the biggest reason fans feel that way. That is ultimately on the owner to provide that vision. It would also help if the fans could believe in Joe Philbin. However, his lack of charisma and his inability to articulate what he wants to do leaves fans wanting more.
I have read some people's posts that state that it will not mean much if the team makes the playoffs because they "won't go anywhere". Or people using statistics to show there is not much difference of 9-7 to 8-8. I could not disagree more. This game is huge for the very foundation of the Miami Dolphins in the years to come. A win and progress can be claimed. A win and some help, the team reaches a plateau that is very difficult to achieve. I will lead the applause for the team if they can make it to the playoffs. Lose, and everything because a question mark heading into the offseason and the future. While we all disagree about how to find success for our beloved team, we want nothing, but the best for them. Sunday a win is needed more than ever.
Those that though a 9-7 and #6 seed would not matter...how do you feel today? This was a golden opportunity to get in the playoffs and give it a shot. All this team did was score 7 points in the last two weeks of the year. Sad end to a season.
It cannot be overstated how important this Sunday's game is for the Miami Dolphins and major participants of the organization. A win Sunday and the team has a winning season and can boast progress. A win and some help from around the league, the team makes the jump to the playoffs. A loss puts a dark cloud over the entire organization and it could possibly reverberate for years to come.
There is a "dark cloud" over this team. Depending on the decisions that are made in the next few days, this lose could reverberate for a long time. The Fins needed a win and they would be in the tournament.
There are many that have a ton on the line Sunday. Perhaps no other person has more on the line than GM Jeff Ireland. Out of anyone in the organization, Jeff Ireland has the most to lose Sunday. If the Fins fall up short, it seems like Ireland could be the fall guy. True enough Ireland has had many years on the job. However, if the Fins drop two in a row to finish the season, the team will look for someone to blame. I feel for Ireland. I think he has done an okay job, but he routinely is blamed for anything that goes wrong while the coaching staff skates by heavy criticism or the players' execution is not nearly discussed enough. I could not imagine being in Ireland's spot heading to the stadium Sunday. Be that as it may, if the team wins, Ireland can show progress and that his moves are paying off. He can claim that continuity is needed for more success and not more change. While people want Ireland's head, they should also realize that a new GM from outside the organization with no prior connection to the current head coach typically fails. Eventually, that new GM will want his own head coach. If the team does not have wild success next year, fans could be looking at another coaching change and purging of the roster. While that might be necessary, it also puts the team further and further away from being relevant within the league. True enough, I am not a huge Jeff Ireland guy and I might be the strongest critic of Joe Philbin on this site. However, I am tired of starting over. I want to try something for a few years. Maybe it works. What does not work is consistently starting over.
Jeff Ireland will be canned IMO at some point this week. As stated above, "forced marriages" typically fail. If Philbin is kept and an outside GM is hired, Philbin will need success or else we are going through Black Monday festivities next year.
The day is huge for Mr. Ross. Steve Ross has a chance to get into his first playoffs. He has made mistakes, but I truly think he wants to win. He might not know how to win exactly, but I think he hurts for success. From his commitment to re-signing players, to signing free agents to big deals to making sure games are not blacked out locally, Ross has tried. A win and a playoff spot will validate his efforts. A loss and one wonders if Ross will feel alone in the wilderness of the NFL.
What a huge week for Mr. Ross. He needs wisdom this week and chart a path for his franchise. Ross still seems like a neophyte owner. However, he needs to provide leadership or else his team could sink deeper into the abyss.
Joe Philbin's career can go many ways after Sunday. Philbin has done a good job keeping the team together through the Jonathan Martin situation. Win on Sunday, and at the very least, he can boast a 9-7 record. Win and get help, and Philbin can claim to be a coach that got his team to the tournament in his second year. Simply winning Sunday shows improvement in the coach's record and if somehow he makes the playoffs, Philbin can be looked at as a longterm answer in Miami. A loss, and Philbin will be stained with the mark of losing to two division teams with a playoff spot within grasp with two weeks remaining in the season. After more than half of dozen coaches are fired at the end of the year, Joe Philbin will be viewed as endangered to start next season. The progress, or lack thereof, will be monitored all of the 2014 season. Questions will abound of whether Philbin will return if the team is at or below .500. IF a new GM replaces Jeff Ireland...one that is from outside the organization...there will be speculation all year of will the new GM want "his guy"? While that day is biggest for Ireland, Joe Philbin might have the most to gain or lose Sunday.
Joe Philbin will stick around IMO. However, there is a disconnect of shaking up of the GM and OC as if that will solve the issues. Joe Philbin could have had a winning record and a playoff birth in his second season. Instead, his team melted down and Philbin had no answer to help his team get over the top. Joe Philbin will enter the 2014 season on the hot seat. He will be a lame duck.
Ryan Tannehill can join the other great QB's from his draft class by making the playoffs. While he is the forgotten guy in the 2012 draft class, Tannehill has shown well early in his career. QB's are labeled ultimately by wins and losses. Win Sunday and he can claim a winning season. Get into the playoffs and he can be mentioned with the Andrew Luck's and Russell Wilson's. Lose and there will be an entire offseason of debate of who exactly Ryan Tannehill is as a QB. Is he developing like he should? Is he really "the guy"? Can he get the franchise over the hump? All of these questions will come about if the team drops the game to the Jets.
Ryan Tannehill had a good season. Unfortunately, he laid an egg yesterday and all the negative comparisons come out of the woodwork. Andrew Luck, RGIII, Nick Foles and Russell Wilson have now all made the playoffs as part of the 2012 draft class. He will have a new OC and the pressure will be on him to produce even more next year.
The free agent additions were debated all year. Did they sign the right guys? Did they pay too much for certain players? Can you win by going in big with free agency? All of those questions have a certain answer based on the scoreboard Sunday. I supported the moves for the most part in the spring. I will not lie...it made the offseason very exciting. With that said, we will see if those moves warrant applause or criticism.
The free agent additions will be killed simply because the team did not win yesterday. It is vital to give this group year two to see if they were worth money. Year two is when new FA's can make an impact typically.
As funny as this sounds, the Dolphins FO, coaching staff and players have been destroyed by various talking heads in the media. People like Heath Evans, Louis Riddick, Mike Florio and Jason Laconfora have made it their weekly hobby to kill something about this team. With a win on Sunday...and maybe a playoff spot, the media that have routinely ripped the team from its style of play, to how the roster was made, to the Martin/Incognito situation can now be ripped via Dolfans. Lose and those media personalities will be relentless for the next six months.
From Jason Laconfora to Mike Florio to Heath Evans....they rejoice today....it is sickening.
This game is huge for the fans. I feel fans want to buy in. They want to feel they are heading the right way. They want to believe their team is in good hands. A win or go home scenario on Sunday, versus a bitter rival at home, Dolfans need a win. If not, the franchise will have the hardest time with their fans going into the future. Seeing will not even be believing for them in the years ahead. Alienation and apathy could result from the average Dolphin fan if they are to drop Sunday's game to Jets. "Same old Dolphins" is what you will hear. A win is vital to the fan base and the team's future.
This is the lowest I have seen this fan base in awhile. Between the getting help and not being able to win a game...at home...vs. a bitter rival. Dolphins fans seem lost...and I cannot blame them. The lack of leadership is the biggest reason fans feel that way. That is ultimately on the owner to provide that vision. It would also help if the fans could believe in Joe Philbin. However, his lack of charisma and his inability to articulate what he wants to do leaves fans wanting more.
I have read some people's posts that state that it will not mean much if the team makes the playoffs because they "won't go anywhere". Or people using statistics to show there is not much difference of 9-7 to 8-8. I could not disagree more. This game is huge for the very foundation of the Miami Dolphins in the years to come. A win and progress can be claimed. A win and some help, the team reaches a plateau that is very difficult to achieve. I will lead the applause for the team if they can make it to the playoffs. Lose, and everything because a question mark heading into the offseason and the future. While we all disagree about how to find success for our beloved team, we want nothing, but the best for them. Sunday a win is needed more than ever.
Those that though a 9-7 and #6 seed would not matter...how do you feel today? This was a golden opportunity to get in the playoffs and give it a shot. All this team did was score 7 points in the last two weeks of the year. Sad end to a season.
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There is no doubt that the franchise should double down on RT. Where can you find a QB? I think he had undue pressure him.
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No running game and smallish targets in close...the pass pro? yikes.
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No running game and smallish targets in close...the pass pro? yikes.