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It’s kinda like the upside I hear with Paul. 90 percent of that ras score was in sheer size. So outside of technique improvement and proper hand placement/use (his hands are too wide with his punch) what are you betting on?

It’s not the feet and the redirect I can tell ya that. Must be the sheer size. NFL teams do him a favor when they try to go thru him. I know that much.
 
I have a feeling these types undervalue interior linemen, even the best of them.

Few highlights to lazily package together.

And of course, they love the past drafts full of edge rushers and skill players.
They name Waddle as our best pick when Sewell was literally the next player selected and yet they deservedly criticize the state of our O-line. This kind of writing irritates me as it is very subjective.
 
If we are going to post garbage opinions can we atleast post it from credible writers. Dude has 239 followers on instagram and 4.2 on X. Every single one of you could get better numbers by paying for X premium or whatever and posting seriously for a year. For a dude that lives off clicks, guy has to be going broke. Might as well post opinions from basement Bob.

Lost it at the “multiple execs view him as a less talented Wilkins replacement” if that’s what they are saying then they don’t deserve that job because they are completely different players. Not to mention Wilkins took forever to actually peak and even his peak isn’t that great. Grant is probably already at year 1-3 Wilkins level as is.

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The problem with projecting all this upside with Grant is the athletic test scores don’t measure up. Christian Wilkins might have had a better ras than 7.5 idk. I realize this kids like 2 years younger but when you are chasing upside in a top 15 pick you should be chasing the traits catching up with everything else.

What exactly are you banking on outside of pass rush polish here from a development/upside stand point?

He is going to get much stronger
 
If we are going to post garbage opinions can we atleast post it from credible writers. Dude has 239 followers on instagram and 4.2 on X. Every single one of you could get better numbers by paying for X premium or whatever and posting seriously for a year. For a dude that lives off clicks, guy has to be going broke. Might as well post opinions from basement Bob.

Lost it at the “multiple execs view him as a less talented Wilkins replacement” if that’s what they are saying then they don’t deserve that job because they are completely different players. Not to mention Wilkins took forever to actually peak and even his peak isn’t that great. Grant is probably already at year 1-3 Wilkins level as is.

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The funniest part about Mr. Mock is his conflicting bios. One mentions Sports Data and the other says ‘The Game isn’t played on a spreadsheet’.

Then, he basically just takes a fantasy football perspective with his opinions.
 
He is going to get much stronger

Yeah he’s still pretty much a kid. His ceiling is through the roof when he develops a pass rush but his run stuffing and taking in double teams provides a solid floor. Luckily our DC is a former dline coach and is probably foaming at the mouth to work with him.
 
Starting to think OP has a bit of an obsession with how others rank our draft picks.

How's about wait till they play?
It’s the offseason, I like seeing what the pundits project so I can compare them to my own analysis and bookmark it to see who was right and why in 3 years from now.

If you dont like the threads don’t read them and put me on ignore…I just can’t stand when people have to come into a thread making comments like these. I know I can wait to see them play and it’s all speculative, it’s a way to pass the boredom of the offseason. It’s a discussion forum, so I’m discussing a dolphins related topic because it interests me how the national media/scouts/executives perceive our team. I’m providing different opinions from different scouts and executives so we can see how the rest of the league thought about our draft, I find it interesting and so do a lot of other posters.

Just don’t read it? Your whole point of coming on this thread was to type that utterly useless comment…Jesus man
 
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If we are going to post garbage opinions can we atleast post it from credible writers. Dude has 239 followers on instagram and 4.2 on X. Every single one of you could get better numbers by paying for X premium or whatever and posting seriously for a year. For a dude that lives off clicks, guy has to be going broke. Might as well post opinions from basement Bob.

Lost it at the “multiple execs view him as a less talented Wilkins replacement” if that’s what they are saying then they don’t deserve that job because they are completely different players. Not to mention Wilkins took forever to actually peak and even his peak isn’t that great. Grant is probably already at year 1-3 Wilkins level as is.

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He writes for the Athletic, a well known website…he’s not typing it from his basement on his personal blog

I disagree with a lot of the executives as well but just sharing it for the forum since it’s a premium site
 
Yeah he’s still pretty much a kid. His ceiling is through the roof when he develops a pass rush but his run stuffing and taking in double teams provides a solid floor. Luckily our DC is a former dline coach and is probably foaming at the mouth to work with him.
I don't know if he'll ever reach double digit sack numbers but I think he's going to create sacks for a lot of players around him.
 
I think expectation from the media factored into the draft grade. Miami may have went against the consensus from the media.

I also think the media's infatuation with teams like the Patriots, Chiefs and others tend to boost those teams grades, every year.

Speculation from the media about Miami's F/O and HC may have also factored into negative opinions.

Those are just some of the theories I'm debating over.
Because on paper outside of the two DB's Miami selected in round #5, each player drafted stands a serious chance at getting significant playing time as rookies. That's a homerun for any team, whether you like the players drafted or not.

My personal preferences was for Miami to draft other players than most of who they selected. But when you look at it as whole coupled with what was done in UDFA and F/A, Miami appears to be in soft rebuild, trying to develop young and promising potential. And there's nothing wrong with that.
 
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It’s the offseason, I like seeing what the pundits project so I can compare them to my own analysis and bookmark it to see who was right and why in 3 years from now.

If you dont like the threads don’t read them and put me on ignore…I just can’t stand when people have to come into a thread making comments like these. I know I can wait to see them play and it’s all speculative, it’s a way to pass the boredom of the offseason.

Just don’t read it? Your whole point of coming on this thread was to type that utterly useless comment…Jesus man

Keep doing what you do. Which is provide excellent information for this forum. And trust your evals. If you’ve put in the work don’t let anyone influence ya. What you read what you hear nada.

I didn’t give a rats ass what the media or folks with a Twitter account or analyst thought when I did this stuff. Outside of maybe some character type stuff which you can’t evaluate on this end. You can only control what you can control which is the tape eval.

Keep doin you.
 
Here’s a peak at their 2026 mock for some names to look out for this fall on Saturdays..they have us going WR which I’d be ok with if we are moving on from Hill after this year like we should.

1. New Orleans Saints: Arch Manning, QB, Texas​

The Saints haven’t drafted a quarterback in the first round since Archie Manning in 1971, so it would certainly be poetic if his grandson breaks that streak. At this point, scouts believe there is a good chance Manning returns to school for his fourth year in 2026. But first, he needs to turn the hype into on-field production as a first-year starter in 2025.


2. New York Jets: LaNorris Sellers, QB, South Carolina​

With his dual-threat skills, Sellers was one of the most entertaining college quarterbacks to watch last season. It is probably too early to be talking about him this early in the draft, but that will change if he takes another step in his development as a passer.

3. New York Giants: Spencer Fano, OT, Utah​

The Evan Neal experiment was a failure in New York, which is why the Giants might be looking at offensive tackle early in next year’s draft. Fano has first-round feet and was equally effective in pass protection and as a run blocker last season.

4. Tennessee Titans: T.J. Parker, Edge, Clemson​

Parker is one of those players you can’t help but notice when you are studying other players. His quickness off the ball and ability to affect the quarterback are frequent themes on his tape.

5. Cleveland Browns: Drew Allar, QB, Penn State​

Had Allar declared for the 2025 NFL Draft, he might have been the No. 2 pick (to his hometown Cleveland Browns). But he returned to school to further his development. If he continues to improve, he will be in the top-five conversation next April.

6. Carolina Panthers: Keldric Faulk, DT, Auburn​

It was impossible to ignore Faulk — and his ability to disrupt the quarterback and stuff the run — when studying the Auburn-Cal tape from last season. Listed at 6-foot-6 and 288 pounds, with long arms, Faulk, according to scouts, will be in the conversation to be the first defensive lineman drafted next year.

7. Las Vegas Raiders: Caleb Downs, S, Ohio State​

It has been almost a decade since the last top-10 safety selection (Jamal Adams in 2017). Can Downs break that streak? He played like the best safety in the country during his freshman and sophomore seasons, and there is no reason to think he won’t continue as a junior.


8. Indianapolis Colts: Kadyn Proctor, OT, Alabama​

A mammoth offensive lineman, Proctor appeared dominant early last season before his play diminished late, especially in the bowl game against Michigan. Nonetheless, the talent is there for him to become a top-10 pick, if he continues to improve as a junior.

9. Cleveland Browns (from JAX): Austin Barber, OT, Florida​

A good-looking athlete at 6-6, 315, Barber shows off his range on pulls and climbs, and he is able to torque defenders off balance once he latches. He could interest a team such as the Browns, who have long-term question marks at left and right tackle.
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10. New England Patriots: Matayo Uiagalelei, Edge, Oregon​

The Oregon defensive line was a joy to watch this past season — 75 percent of its starters were drafted this past weekend (Derrick Harmon, Jordan Burch, Jamaree Caldwell). Uiagalelei is the lone returning starter, but he might have the highest ceiling of the group.

11. Los Angeles Rams (from ATL): Jermod McCoy, CB, Tennessee​

After playing his freshman season at Oregon State, McCoy enjoyed a breakout sophomore season after transferring to the Volunteers (13 passes defended and four interceptions). His ball instincts consistently stood out when I studied Tennessee’s defense last season.

12. Seattle Seahawks: Anthony Hill Jr., LB, Texas​

The Mike linebacker in Austin, Hill has a well-rounded skill set to make an impact as a blitzer, run stopper and cover man. The Longhorns had five defensive players drafted in the 2025 class, but their defense will be in good shape with Hill, true sophomore Colin Simmons and others.

13. Miami Dolphins: Carnell Tate, WR, Ohio State​

The 2027 draft class should include an epic group of wide receivers, but the 2026 class of pass catchers is a tad underwhelming at this point in the process. Of course, the Buckeyes have another first-round receiver in the pipeline, though — Tate could be Ohio State’s sixth first-round receiver in the last five years.

14. Dallas Cowboys: Jeremiyah Love, RB, Notre Dame​

Love is the only running back in this way-too-early mock, but he might be the class’ most exciting skill player. If he stays healthy in 2025, he will be in the Heisman discussion and cement his status as a first-round player.



15. Arizona Cardinals: CJ Allen, LB, Georgia​

It wouldn’t be a proper first-round mock without at least one Georgia defender. Allen was one of the best run defenders in the SEC last season and put several impressive coverage reps on tape.

16. Pittsburgh Steelers: Garrett Nussmeier, QB, LSU​

The Steelers might still be looking for a long-term option at quarterback a year from now. Had Nussmeier bypassed his senior year at LSU, teams believe he could have been the second quarterback drafted in this past class.


17. Chicago Bears: Rueben Bain Jr., Edge, Miami​

Bain burst onto the scene as a true freshman two years ago for the Hurricanes and should again be among the ACC’s top defensive players in 2025, if he stays healthy.

18. Denver Broncos: Kenyon Sadiq, TE, Oregon​

Despite totaling just 332 receiving yards over his first two seasons in Eugene, Sadiq is poised for a breakout season in 2025 with Terrance Ferguson now in the NFL. The 6-3, 245-pound Idaho native is an athletic pass catcher for his size.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: LT Overton, DT, Alabama​

Although his impact appeared to tail off last season, Overton put dominant stretches together on his 2024 tape (see South Carolina). He has impressive movement skills for 285 pounds and should lead the Tide in pressures this season.



20. Houston Texans: Peter Woods, DT, Clemson​

The Clemson defensive coaches would line up the 315-pound Woods at defensive end last season to get the best four linemen on the field — and Woods didn’t look out of place. He will move inside to defensive tackle in 2025 and is on a first-round trajectory.

21. Minnesota Vikings: Jalon Kilgore, CB, South Carolina​

After earning Freshman All-SEC honors in 2023, Kilgore tied for the SEC lead in interceptions (five) with Jahdae Barron and Andrew Mukuba in 2024. Another productive season will punch his ticket for next April’s early rounds.

22. Los Angeles Chargers: Tyreak Sapp, Edge, Florida​

While studying the Florida defense late last season, I routinely came across Sapp standing out on the Ole Miss and Florida State tapes. At 6-2, 275, he should be the leader of the Gators’ defense in 2025.

23. San Francisco 49ers: Kage Casey, OT, Boise State​

Boise State has consistently produced NFL talent, but it’s never had first-round picks in back-to-back years. There is a chance that Casey, who helped open run lanes for 2025 top-six pick Ashton Jeanty, could change that.


24. Green Bay Packers: Avieon Terrell, CB, Clemson​

Jaire Alexander might not be in Green Bay much longer, but Terrell — the younger brother of Falcons cornerback A.J. Terrell, reminds me a lot of Alexander. He’s undersized but an easy mover with natural cover instincts.

25. Washington Commanders: Whit Weeks, LB, LSU​

Weeks was a tackling machine for the Tigers last season and looked like a future early-round pick. He suffered a dislocated ankle in LSU’s bowl game, but he’ll hopefully return to his 2024 form early.

26. Cincinnati Bengals: Francis Mauigoa, OT, Miami​

The younger brother of Francisco Mauigoa, who was drafted this past weekend by the Jets, Francis Mauigoa was a big-time recruit for the Hurricanes and has started all 26 games at right tackle over the last two years. With improved consistency in 2025, he will put himself in the conversation to be a potential first-rounder.

27. Los Angeles Rams: Fernando Mendoza, QB, Indiana​

The fifth quarterback drafted in this mock, Mendoza was a pleasant surprise when watching the Cal offense this past season. He transferred to Indiana in the offseason, and it will be interesting to track his progress under Curt Cignetti.

28. Detroit Lions: Anto Saka, Edge, Northwestern​

Saka has yet to start a game in college, so this might seem a tad early for him. But he consistently flashed on tape as a subpackage rusher (see the Maryland game), and his traits haven’t gone unnoticed by NFL scouts.

29. Kansas City Chiefs: Keanu Tanuvasa, DT, BYU​

A transfer from Utah, Tanuvasa missed a good chunk of last season. His strength and physicality was evident when he was on the field, though. He should be one of the Big 12’s best defensive prospects this season.

30. Buffalo Bills: Kamari Ramsey, S, USC​

A potential top-50 pick had he declared for the 2025 draft, Ramsey is a rangy athlete with a good feel for coverage. He gives scouts a reason to focus on the Trojans’ defense in 2025.

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31. Baltimore Ravens: Evan Stewart, WR, Oregon​

A former five-star recruit, Stewart teases high-level receiving talent (see the Boise State and Ohio State tapes from last season) but needs to string together better consistency to be taken this early. Will 2025 finally be his breakout year?

32. Philadelphia Eagles: Jude Bowry, OT, Boston College​

Ozzy Trapilo, who was drafted in the second round over the weekend, locked down right tackle for Boston College while Bowry handled left tackle duties. Bowry’s run blocking needs to improve, but his efficiency patterns in pass pro drew scouts’ eyes.
 
I see allar top 5 and im like that dude can’t read the defense if his life depended on it.

Kiper had him outside of arch (if arch stays in school) as the #1 pick.
 
I see allar top 5 and im like that dude can’t read the defense if his life depended on it.

Kiper had him outside of arch (if arch stays in school) as the #1 pick.
Have you had a chance to watch or evaluate this Sellers kid?
 
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