Vick not signed put people already out in force...

[Ricky4Life]

CANTON, Ohio – Michael Vick(notes) wasn’t anywhere near the latest Hall of Fame ceremony, and he hasn’t even returned to the NFL yet. However, there was a reminder of the impact he might have if and when he returns to the league.

Fliers were left on the windshields of cars in the parking lot outside the Pro Football Hall of Fame on Saturday. The fliers read: “Help Wanted: The NFL Hires Pet Killers.”

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-vick080909&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

[Astrosback]

Good! Hopefully this will deter any owners left who might be considering this piece of garbage.

And someone please tell Tony Dungy to stop vouching for Mike Vick and acting as his "mentor" and claiming that Vick has shown "remorse". :rolleyes2:

Don't be focking idiot Tony! If Vick didn't feel remorse at any point over the (at least) 7 years that he personally tortured dogs, then he is obviously incapable of remorse, and obviously has no empathetic bone in his body.

I'm sure Vick feels "remorse" that he got caught, lost his money and his NFL job, and that he is a focking moron, but that isn't the same thing, now is it Tony?

Fock Vick and his "2nd chance" at the NFL. Let me know when his dogs ever got a 2nd chance and then I'll worry about his.

Don't cry for me Argentina!

 

[dlockz]

Good! Hopefully this will deter any owners left who might be considering this piece of garbage.

And someone please tell Tony Dungy to stop vouching for Mike Vick and acting as his "mentor" and claiming that Vick has shown "remorse". :rolleyes2:

Don't be focking idiot Tony! If Vick didn't feel remorse at any point over the (at least) 7 years that he personally tortured dogs, then he is obviously incapable of remorse, and obviously has no empathetic bone in his body.

I'm sure Vick feels "remorse" that he got caught, lost his money and his NFL job, and that he is a focking moron, but that isn't the same thing, now is it Tony?

Fock Vick and his "2nd chance" at the NFL. Let me know when his dogs ever got a 2nd chance and then I'll worry about his.

Don't cry for me Argentina!

Who really knows what Vick feels. Im sure getting caught has alot to do with his remorse but really do you think any dog fighter feels like what they are doing is wrong. Im pretty sure they see it as the nature of things.

Dungy has his opinion and he has a right to speak up for Vick just as many have a right to blast him.

Personally I wish the people that make these flyers would use thier time and money to help the ASPCA. The SPCA always has needs for volunteers.
I personally volunteer time in my community there when I can but still support people to get a second chance when they serve thier time unless its murdering a human.

 

[Astrosback]

I donate to the ASPCA monthly and I volunteer from time to time at the Humane Society so we have common efforts in this area but I just can't agree with your take on Vick getting a 2nd chance at the fame and fortune of the NFL.

MAYBE I could understand if you said he should have a 2nd chance at life OUT OF THE NFL but no way does he deserve to represent franchises or the league again.

The NFL should be ashamed for not drawing the line - any line - anywhere.

Dungy apparently doesn't differentiate between getting in a bar fight, smoking weed, and/or torturing upwards of 100 animals. His compassion for scumbags is horribly hypocritical when he has ZERO compassion for animals. He even said last night how he "prays" for Mike Vick. Hey Dungy, did you ever "pray" for the dogs he tortured - you religious, brain-washed moron?!?!?

Anyway, I think we can both agree that the chick in your sig is a hottie!

 

[Gman84]

Like it or not Vick is going to get another chance. Whether he is genuinely sorry or whether it's just remorse in order to get his job back, the league has to do an outstanding job of making sure they do everything in their power to have Vick use his known criminal record to deter others from doing the same.

At least that way his negative history can have a positive future. I still fully expect the Redskins to make a big play for Vick in the coming weeks.

 

[Astrosback]

Like it or not Vick is going to get another chance. Whether he is genuinely sorry or whether it's just remorse in order to get his job back, the league has to do an outstanding job of making sure they do everything in their power to have Vick use his known criminal record to deter others from doing the same.

At least that way his negative history can have a positive future. I still fully expect the Redskins to make a big play for Vick in the coming weeks.

Call me crazy but I think it would be a bigger deterrent for kids and other players to see that if you torture animals, then you get banned from the NFL for life.

It would also be a bigger deterrent from driving drunk if players saw that if you kill someone in a DUI (Leonard Little, Stallworth), then you get banned from the NFL for life.

Please excuse me if I don't send Goddell a Christmas card for giving into the likes of Tony Dungy and other misguided "forgivers" who want to convince the world that Vick just made a "mistake".

 

[dlockz]

I donate to the ASPCA monthly and I volunteer from time to time at the Humane Society so we have common efforts in this area but I just can't agree with your take on Vick getting a 2nd chance at the fame and fortune of the NFL.

MAYBE I could understand if you said he should have a 2nd chance at life OUT OF THE NFL but no way does he deserve to represent franchises or the league again.

The NFL should be ashamed for not drawing the line - any line - anywhere.

Dungy apparently doesn't differentiate between getting in a bar fight, smoking weed, and/or torturing upwards of 100 animals. His compassion for scumbags is horribly hypocritical when he has ZERO compassion for animals. He even said last night how he "prays" for Mike Vick. Hey Dungy, did you ever "pray" for the dogs he tortured - you religious, brain-washed moron?!?!?

Anyway, I think we can both agree that the chick in your sig is a hottie!

I guess I dont see the NFl as this elite society of the best people just the best football players. Also religion is not that kind to animals since in the bible animals were sacrificed. Christians do not believe dogs have a soul so it would be senseless to pray for one I guess.

 

[dlockz]

Call me crazy but I think it would be a bigger deterrent for kids and other players to see that if you torture animals, then you get banned from the NFL for life.

It would also be a bigger deterrent from driving drunk if players saw that if you kill someone in a DUI (Leonard Little, Stallworth), then you get banned from the NFL for life.

Please excuse me if I don't send Goddell a Christmas card for giving into the likes of Tony Dungy and other misguided "forgivers" who want to convince the world that Vick just made a "mistake".

If you want a big deterrent for drunk driving then u lose your license for life for any dui. Giving a duier more chances to drive is still not that big a deterent.

Actually its all about getting caught. There are still many players in the league that have fought dogs that are still playing. The difference is basically pure luck.

 

[Astrosback]

If you want a big deterrent for drunk driving then u lose your license for life for any dui. Giving a duier more chances to drive is still not that big a deterent.

Actually its all about getting caught. There are still many players in the league that have fought dogs that are still playing. The difference is basically pure luck.

Agree about the luck part. Stallworth/Little aren't necessarily worse than other people who drive around drunk, they're just the unlucky ones whose DUI'ing resulted in death and thus they (should have been) used as examples.

We both know/suspect Joey Porter was involved in dog fighting but he was lucky enough to not have been caught.

Of course, Vick wasn't just "unlucky" and he didn't just go to a dog fight here and there. He brought the death and suffering of dog fighting to a massive scale and is likely responsible for over 100 dogs suffering through those horrors. The SCALE of Vick's crimes is what is getting over looked here - especially when ESPN constantly breezes over his crimes as being "involved in dog fighting".

That's like saying Adolph Hitler was "involved in anti-semitism".

 

[dlockz]

Agree about the luck part. Stallworth/Little aren't necessarily worse than other people who drive around drunk, they're just the unlucky ones whose DUI'ing resulted in death and thus they (should have been) used as examples.

We both know/suspect Joey Porter was involved in dog fighting but he was lucky enough to not have been caught.

Of course, Vick wasn't just "unlucky" and he didn't just go to a dog fight here and there. He brought the death and suffering of dog fighting to a massive scale and is likely responsible for over 100 dogs suffering through those horrors. The SCALE of Vick's crimes is what is getting over looked here - especially when ESPN constantly breezes over his crimes as being "involved in dog fighting".

That's like saying Adolph Hitler was "involved in anti-semitism".

I dont agree with your last statement. Because even one dog fight involves the torture of multiple dogs just to train that one dog. Its not as simple as basic training. All dog fighting is torture of the dogs. Do people think the losing dogs are rehabilitated.

With Vick it was still pure luck because not at one point were they investigating dog fighting until they lucked upon evidence under suspicion of something else. As massive as his dog fighting was supposed to be the authorites were not even on his trail at all. So it was luck that he got caught.

 

[Astrosback]

I dont agree with your last statement. Because even one dog fight involves the torture of multiple dogs just to train that one dog. Its not as simple as basic training. All dog fighting is torture of the dogs. Do people think the losing dogs are rehabilitated.

With Vick it was still pure luck because not at one point were they investigating dog fighting until they lucked upon evidence under suspicion of something else. As massive as his dog fighting was supposed to be the authorites were not even on his trail at all. So it was luck that he got caught.

He's a focking retard so he was bound to get caught eventually.

 

[dlockz]

He's a focking retard so he was bound to get caught eventually.

Well thats your take. I doubt he would have got caught for dog fighting. How many other players have been caught.

 

[Fin_Fanatic]

*yawn* the skins or the seahawks should sign him. He still has speed and some talent.

 

[normaldude]

I don't think dog fighting is a big deal.

I mean, anyone eating meat at a fancy restaurant is basically torturing animals to death for their own entertainment.

Compare the Michael Vick case to NFL wide receiver Donte Stallworth, who was driving drunk in his Rolls Royce, and killed a human being, and he only gets 24 days in prison.

Sorry, but I think the lives of humans are more important than the lives of dogs.

 

[dlockz]

I don't think dog fighting is a big deal.

I mean, anyone eating meat at a fancy restaurant is basically torturing animals to death for their own entertainment.

Compare the Michael Vick case to NFL wide receiver Donte Stallworth, who was driving drunk in his Rolls Royce, and killed a human being, and he only gets 24 days in prison.

Sorry, but I think the lives of humans are more important than the lives of dogs.

Dog fighting is a big deal I just dont believe after serving his time he should no be allowed to play a damn sport in a league that is far from the best of society