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Waddle the Dolphins Best RB, the Defense, and the Rebuild

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Myles Gaskin 13 carries 65 yards 5.0 avg, Jaylen Waddle 12 receptions 58 yards, 4.8 avg (13 targets). THIS IS WHAT WE DRAFTED WADDLE FOR at #6? To effectively be another running back and go sideways and backwards? This is our Tyreek Hill? Meanwhile Jamarr Chase is catching TDs, two more yesterday.

We had Will Fuller and Waddle playing, the new “weapons,” and the offense looked about as bad as it ever has. I always thought the “weapons” thing was simplistic and misguided. The notion that the “weapons” would somehow just turn Tua into a good QB. Absurd. The franchise QB is the one that is meant to make everyone around them better, not the other way around. Especially when the weapons in place were already sufficient, which they were.

We drafted a weapon at #6 after a dumb trade up, spent the most FA$ on a weapon, then completely ignored the OL and coaching.

Good article below from Omar Kelly. Something is just broken about this offense. It will not be good this year. It is already easy to tell it is irreparable. This offense, with the addition of the “weapons,” has massively regressed from CHAN GAILEY of all people. That is how bad it is. I know what Jacoby Brissett is. He is not good, but he is serviceable and a lot better than he looked yesterday. This offense has caused him to regress. I have a few hypothesis:

-OL is so bad there is no chance (and the OL coach is clueless as well)

-For an RPO offense to work, you actually need the threat of a running game which we don’t have

-The scheme was dumbed down for Tua who has issues processing a more complex offense, and the scheme is now so simple and bad, it is easy to defend

-The OCs are so bad, in addition to the bad scheme, the play calling and game planning is also terrible

-Both QBs are so mediocre to bad they don’t help the equation

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports...-3~QTIZA4FHNFHMXIU7ERNZO4IAXI~3~3~2~3~art yes

Side point. The notion is out there that the offense has been terrible, but the defense has been really good and even championship level. I disagree with that, strongly. Football is a complimentary game. Yes the offense has made things harder for the defense. The defense has been opportunistic, but far from good. The defense is also not getting off the field and generating 3 and outs and controlling the and dominating the games. Yes the defense had the pick six yesterday and gave the team a chance.

But look at the box score from yesterday. Raiders 28 first downs, 497 yards, 140 rushing yards with backup RBs, 39 minutes time of possession, and allowed the Raiders to score on their last 3 possessions. Defense was steamrolled by Buffalo. And defense did not control the game against the Patriots who had a rookie QB starting his first game! The fumbles were great, but Miami D was far from dominant versus a rookie. Heck you don’t even need the stats, rely on your eyeballs.

Right now the Miami D is 8th WORST in the NFL in yards allowed/game, and 10th WORST in the NFL in points allowed per game. This is not good, and only Championship level if we had the Kansas City offense on the other side of the ball.

This is disappointing too. After all the draft capital and rebuilding, a defensive minded coach, and this is all we have to show on the defensive side of the ball. OUR FRONT SEVEN STINKS. Bad against the run, and cannot generate pressure in the pass rush without blitzing. Then the secondary gets exposed. We have one great player, and then a few decent guys, who are asked to do way too much.

Net net a defense that is in the bottom third of the NFL statistically, and a scoring offense that is 3rd WORST in the NFL!!! Basically the Dolphins suck. We are so bad, we are only favored by a point at home against the 0-3 Colts. That means Vegas thinks an 0-3 team is better than the Dolphins on a neutral field.

After this giant rebuild, we may have just gotten worse, and best case are stuck right back in the middle of mediocrity, and still have no QB.

FIRE EVERYONE!!!!
 
Nah, we have the horses just need someone to hold the reins to utilize our personnel and speed with creativity from week to week to exploit the other side
who is someone? a good QB, or good OCs, or both? And do the horses include our OL?
 
Our line is 100% a work in progress, And I believe we need to add veteran presence probably 2 Bodies. Outside of that it’s coordinator, I see very little creativity with our playcalling and utilization of our projected speed to create mismatches, zero.

We don’t beat New England at home, granted without the goat they are not the same team, but still a tough place to win with a Hall of Fame coach and the rookie quarterback. We played until the third quarter against the likely division winner and war within a country hair of beating a very talented raiders team. I believe we have the horses they’re just not coming out of the stable groomed properly.

I’m not sure what we haven’t quarterback with Tua Yet because he can’t stay on the field but if we have him progressing that’s fantastic but if we got another guy who has already progressed that eliminates that concern And I am glad I don’t have to make that call.

What I’m trying to say is we could have the personnel that the raiders have and we would still come out looking like bumble ****s on offense in my opinion. Few are utilized to their strengths.
 
Our line is 100% a work in progress, And I believe we need to add veteran presence probably 2 Bodies. Outside of that it’s coordinator, I see very little creativity with our playcalling and utilization of our projected speed to create mismatches, zero.

We don’t beat New England at home, granted without the goat they are not the same team, but still a tough place to win with a Hall of Fame coach and the rookie quarterback. We played until the third quarter against the likely division winner and war within a country hair of beating a very talented raiders team. I believe we have the horses they’re just not coming out of the stable groomed properly.

I’m not sure what we haven’t quarterback with Tua Yet because he can’t stay on the field but if we have him progressing that’s fantastic but if we got another guy who has already progressed that eliminates that concern And I am glad I don’t have to make that call.

What I’m trying to say is we could have the personnel that the raiders have and we would still come out looking like bumble ****s on offense in my opinion. Few are utilized to their strengths.
and the over-rated defense? either we don't have the horses or flores is a bad defensive coach too? thoughts?
 
Our line is 100% a work in progress, And I believe we need to add veteran presence probably 2 Bodies. Outside of that it’s coordinator, I see very little creativity with our playcalling and utilization of our projected speed to create mismatches, zero.

We don’t beat New England at home, granted without the goat they are not the same team, but still a tough place to win with a Hall of Fame coach and the rookie quarterback. We played until the third quarter against the likely division winner and war within a country hair of beating a very talented raiders team. I believe we have the horses they’re just not coming out of the stable groomed properly.

I’m not sure what we haven’t quarterback with Tua Yet because he can’t stay on the field but if we have him progressing that’s fantastic but if we got another guy who has already progressed that eliminates that concern And I am glad I don’t have to make that call.

What I’m trying to say is we could have the personnel that the raiders have and we would still come out looking like bumble ****s on offense in my opinion. Few are utilized to their strengths.
Our offense really lacks any sort of identity. Even in the pats game you couldn't really tell what they were. I can't figure out if that's a conflict between the two OCs or just a mentality but they need to fix it.

Right now Flores is not looking like the HC we thought he could be. All of this is on him and if he can't get the offensive staff to pick it up he has to go. What a waste it is Right now watching the same issues from the past two years
 
My opinion? I think we have the personnel on defense as long as they’re not on the field like they have been. We are perfect by any stretch of the imagination and as I say every year we need a stud linebacker inside and an edge rush
 
RPO is a college offense, as long as this staff thinks it is something else the longer the pain will last.
 
1) Fix the O-Line.
2) Find out IF Tua is a good QB

If your offensive line is bad, your offense is going to be bad.
Defense gave up too many 3rd down conversions and big plays yesterday.
Defense couldn't get to Carr in the second half.
 
... then completely ignored the OL and coaching.
Wrong. Grier spent money and draft picks on the o-line over several years; he never ignored it. The problem is that he sucks at his job... someone else should be drafting and building the o-line! As for coaching, last season they had an experienced OC and went 10-6. But, they didn't resign Fitz and Gailey retired (again). So, for this year, Flores didn't ignore the coaching issues at all; he just refused to hire another established, experienced OC and let an inexperienced coach be in charge of the o-line.

Grier and Flores didn't ignore anything; they just did what they wanted to do and failed the team because they aren't very good at their job. Grier should not be allowed to draft or evaluate talent. Flores may be a decent DC, but as a HC he has failed on the offensive side of the ball.
 
Wrong. Grier spent money and draft picks on the o-line over several years; he never ignored it. The problem is that he sucks at his job... someone else should be drafting and building the o-line! As for coaching, last season they had an experienced OC and went 10-6. But, they didn't resign Fitz and Gailey retired (again). So, for this year, Flores didn't ignore the coaching issues at all; he just refused to hire another established, experienced OC and let an inexperienced coach be in charge of the o-line.

Grier and Flores didn't ignore anything; they just did what they wanted to do and failed the team because they aren't very good at their job. Grier should not be allowed to draft or evaluate talent. Flores may be a decent DC, but as a HC he has failed on the offensive side of the ball.
agree and this is all on ross for hiring and keeping bad people. terrible owner just clueless. the tanking strategy and accumulating picks strategy only works if you are good at buying the groceries. cannot go down this path with idiots buying the groceries. the team sucks now both sides of the ball and that is ultimately on ross fish rots from the head
 
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