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Wakeup Call: Tua Dream is Dead?

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Before we played our 1st game, the season mantra was “tank for Tua.” Everything was on course, Josh Rosen stunk, we even traded Minkah.
For some reason- maybe external pressure- we sabotage the tank- win a few games with Fitzy. The dream was dead until the hip injury and then there was hope.
But guess what- Tua is healing up.
Detroit & Washington are unsettled at QB- all this nonsense about Detroit needing to win and Washington loving Young. I don’t buy it.
Look at it as a Detroit fan: Draft Tua, start Stafford, if Stafford plays well & Tua healthy- move Stafford for multiple picks.
Washington: Draft Tua- trade Haskins for a Rd2. Wouldn’t you prefer that as a Skins fan?

The hip is better, the chances of Tua/Miami fading.
 
Lions are not drafting a QB. Bob Quinn and Matt Patricia are on the hot seat and need to win now, they need a playmaker.

The Redskins would be smart to draft Tua and give up on Haskins - he’s not the guy.
 
The worry is someone jumping in front of Miami at 2,3 or 4 to snag Tua.

LAC, Carolina, and Indy appear to be suspects. Vegas, Tampa, JAX, NE, might be threats as well.

Some of these teams will land FA QB's and take themselves out of the running, and ALL of them would have to pay a higher price than Miami to move up, especially everyone but LAC and Carolina.

IF the Fins want Tua they should be able to make the best offer, it just depends on how much they are willing to pay.
 
btw.........................IF Miami does not really like Tua this would be the greatest Draft Smokescreen of all time!
 
Lovethefish said:
Before we played our 1st game, the season mantra was “tank for Tua.” Everything was on course, Josh Rosen stunk, we even traded Minkah.
For some reason- maybe external pressure- we sabotage the tank- win a few games with Fitzy. The dream was dead until the hip injury and then there was hope.
But guess what- Tua is healing up.
Detroit & Washington are unsettled at QB- all this nonsense about Detroit needing to win and Washington loving Young. I don’t buy it.
Look at it as a Detroit fan: Draft Tua, start Stafford, if Stafford plays well & Tua healthy- move Stafford for multiple picks.
Washington: Draft Tua- trade Haskins for a Rd2. Wouldn’t you prefer that as a Skins fan?

The hip is better, the chances of Tua/Miami fading.
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Assuming the Redskins stay put the calculation is not Tua over Haskins. It is Tua over Haskins + Young. I think the Redskins stay put or take 3 of Miami's 1st round picks (two this year, 1 next or something along those lines) to move down to 5.
 
The Skins invested a lot of money in an injured QB. They will not draft Tua.
 
We'll just have to see how things actually shake out. This is the season for smokescreens and false information.

The whole "Tank for Tua" mantra was made up by the media or fans, but not something we ever heard from the front office. Personally, I really like Tua and would love to see him in a Miami Dolphins uniform. But we have absolutely no idea where Miami stands. They might see him as too big of an injury risk. He might be there at #5 and the Dolphins may go in another direction.
 
No it's not. There is no one with our capital that can out bid us and if you look at the list behind us of QB needy teams, it very difficult to really make a case for any of them trying to out bid us. The other thing working in our favour, is the sheer depth of this draft class, Simmons, who imo is the best non QB player in this draft is likely to still be on the board after we pick. Holding our nerve and staying at 5 is going to be very hard for the FO to do but you can see if they do they might well be able to still get him.
 
I really hope we get Tua. But I honestly have no clue what’s gonna happen. I could see Burrow (extremely unlikely), Tua, Herbert or Love all being the QB Miami likes/gets. I can also see a scenario where they don’t wanna trade a bunch of picks to move up and end up punting on QB altogether and stocking up picks for Lawrence/Fields next year if they have those guys ranked as better prospects.
 
Redskins and Lions showing interest... Dolphins showing intrest in other qb options. It's all smoke and mirrors and it's all smart business for teams to take these stances nearly two months before the draft.
 
Lovethefish said:
Before we played our 1st game, the season mantra was “tank for Tua.” Everything was on course, Josh Rosen stunk, we even traded Minkah.
For some reason- maybe external pressure- we sabotage the tank- win a few games with Fitzy. The dream was dead until the hip injury and then there was hope.
But guess what- Tua is healing up.
Detroit & Washington are unsettled at QB- all this nonsense about Detroit needing to win and Washington loving Young. I don’t buy it.
Look at it as a Detroit fan: Draft Tua, start Stafford, if Stafford plays well & Tua healthy- move Stafford for multiple picks.
Washington: Draft Tua- trade Haskins for a Rd2. Wouldn’t you prefer that as a Skins fan?

The hip is better, the chances of Tua/Miami fading.
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Lots good about this but Stafford is not worth multiple Picks at this point - salary is crippling for a guy who hasn’t done anything like Thill

If Skins pick Tua at Tua there will be no viable market for Haskins we are talking a day three pick

And it is still worth it for Wash
 
I think Washington is the bigger threat here... Why float that Tua rumor out there if they really want Chase Young? It's not like they need to hide who they like picking 2nd overall.

Lions I think are just trying to drive the price up (just my two cents).
 
Lovethefish said:
Look at it as a Detroit fan: Draft Tua, start Stafford, if Stafford plays well & Tua healthy- move Stafford for multiple picks.
Washington: Draft Tua- trade Haskins for a Rd2. Wouldn’t you prefer that as a Skins fan?
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What does it matter what Washington/Lions fans want?

It matters what the people in power want or how they look at it.
 
King28 said:
The Redskins would be smart to draft Tua and give up on Haskins - he’s not the guy.
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IDK whether Haskins is the guy or not and neither do the Redskins. And neither do you.

The kid only played for a half season on a bad team. And his last 3 games he threw 5 TD’s with only 1 INT in which two of the games were against playoff teams.

The Skins could still draft a QB to double down on the position or because the new regime wants to draft their own guy instead of inheriting him, but, if they do, it won’t be because they unequivocally know he ain’t the guy.

Funny, many Dolphins fans were mocking them for letting Tannehill go then seeing him play on a winning team despite 7 years of seeing he wasn’t ‘the guy’ and now we have someone advocating another team dumping a top QB draft pick after only 8 starts.

Unbelievable.
 
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