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Watson was 4 settlements away from becoming a Dolphin. Interesting Quick read...

Fred Bear said:
And the Browns are known for their great decisions?
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It's not a matter of whether or not it was a good or bad decision. The narrative that this is somehow a surprise to Cleveland is rediculous. You don't guarantee 200 million or whatever to a player without doing extensive due diligence. The Browns know more than the media knows about this one way or another. Even if they have a clause where they can get out of this if necessary.
 
bdizzle00 said:
It's not a matter of whether or not it was a good or bad decision. The narrative that this is somehow a surprise to Cleveland is rediculous. You don't guarantee 200 million or whatever to a player without doing extensive due diligence. The Browns know more than the media knows about this one way or another. Even if they have a clause where they can get out of this if necessary.
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You do realize they got back in the trade talks solely because of the guaranteed money - Atlanta and NO dropped out for a reason / all 3 wanted DW regardless of the lawsuits
 
Rev Kev said:
You do realize they got back in the trade talks solely because of the guaranteed money - Atlanta and NO dropped out for a reason / all 3 wanted DW regardless of the lawsuits
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Casual fans with no expertise at all and no financial risk understand the risk involved with signing this guy. I find it hard to believe that the best people in the world at this business have less common sense than us and would not at least try to properly assess the risk/reward ratio when spending $200 million dollars on a guy with as many red flags as Watson. Again, either they are egregiously irresponsible, or they know more than we do about this.
 
bdizzle00 said:
It's not a matter of whether or not it was a good or bad decision. The narrative that this is somehow a surprise to Cleveland is rediculous. You don't guarantee 200 million or whatever to a player without doing extensive due diligence. The Browns know more than the media knows about this one way or another. Even if they have a clause where they can get out of this if necessary.
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We're talking about an organization that pulled the trigger on Manziel in round one because a homeless guy told the owner to days before the draft...

lol

No, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Browns rolled the dice on this situation without doing proper due diligence. It would be the most Browns thing ever.
 
BONG SHULA said:
We're talking about an organization that pulled the trigger on Manziel in round one because a homeless guy told the owner to days before the draft...

lol

No, it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Browns rolled the dice on this situation without doing proper due diligence. It would be the most Browns thing ever.
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I'm sorry but that's not possible unless they have an out clause in the contract to protect them. No business would operate like that, much less one of only 32 in the world and risking that much money.
 
Glad we moved on and got a new coach and some great off season additions and kept all our 2023 picks to boot.
 
bdizzle00 said:
I'm sorry but that's not possible unless they have an out clause in the contract to protect them. No business would operate like that, much less one of only 32 in the world and risking that much money.
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You are severely underestimating just how dysfunctional the Browns are. Haslam is good at running truck stops. He's not good at running a professional sports franchise. He's shown that over and over and over again. Success and competence in one field does not necessarily lead to success and competence in another.
 
BONG SHULA said:
You are severely underestimating just how dysfunctional the Browns are. Haslam is good at running truck stops. He's not good at running a professional sports franchise. He's shown that over and over and over again. Success and competence in one field does not necessarily lead to success and competence in another.
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You can believe that a professional sports organization with the world's best minds in the field would piss away $200 million dollars without doing their due diligence. I refuse to believe that. in fact, has it ever happened before in the history of sports? I will bet you a donation to this site that if the Watson situation goes sideways the Browns are not on the hook for his guaranteed money.
 
bdizzle00 said:
I'm sorry but that's not possible unless they have an out clause in the contract to protect them. No business would operate like that, much less one of only 32 in the world and risking that much money.
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From what I understand, they did not interview any of the victims, so they may have done some research, but was it enough? And, were they turning over the right stones? It seems like the answer is, No. Also, never underestimate the power of wishful thinking. You can miss all kinds of obvious things when you want something bad enough.

Cleveland has one of the best rosters in the NFL. With Watson, SB aspirations are realistic. I hope Watson is suspended indefinitely - a minimum of 2 years - but it's not hard to see how Cleveland would be blinded by their desire to add Watson to a stacked roster.

That does not in any way excuse Cleveland, and I will forever hold Ross's continued (after the allegations) interest in Watson against him.
 
j-off-her-doll said:
From what I understand, they did not interview any of the victims, so they may have done some research, but was it enough? And, were they turning over the right stones? It seems like the answer is, No. Also, never underestimate the power of wishful thinking. You can miss all kinds of obvious things when you want something bad enough.

Cleveland has one of the best rosters in the NFL. With Watson, SB aspirations are realistic. I hope Watson is suspended indefinitely - a minimum of 2 years - but it's not hard to see how Cleveland would be blinded by their desire to add Watson to a stacked roster.

That does not in any way excuse Cleveland, and I will forever hold Ross's continued (after the allegations) interest in Watson against him.
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Ok. Just to be clear, I'm not defending Watson. I have no idea about him and I'm glad the Dolphins didn't trade for him. But how can anyone possibly think that any business, much less one of the elite businesses in the world, would guarantee any employee with so many red flags that much money without doing their due diligence? It makes no sense to me whatsoever.

I mean, you and I would have the common sense to try to talk to as many of the "victims" as possible. I don't know about you, but I'm an idiot and I would do that if I was risking $1000, much less $200 million.
 
bdizzle00 said:
Casual fans with no expertise at all and no financial risk understand the risk involved with signing this guy. I find it hard to believe that the best people in the world at this business have less common sense than us and would not at least try to properly assess the risk/reward ratio when spending $200 million dollars on a guy with as many red flags as Watson. Again, either they are egregiously irresponsible, or they know more than we do about this.
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It is chump change the NFL Owners prints money

The black mark will not go away so easily
 
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People tend to believe what they want to believe. They asked Watson. He lied. They investigated to some extent and they missed stuff. But really, when it was 23 potential suits that's not really much different than 66 at least in terms of realizing that this guy was a problem you should avoid. There was always going to be either more suits like we're seeing now or more incidents down the line. Either way it was freaking obvious then, but despite that how many people here still wanted him?
 
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