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Ways to Fix Cap/Roster

Unfortunately, I believe, as do many Fin fans, that the best possible outcome for the long term success of our team is utter failure this season, the firing of the decision makers, the trading of anyone that will not be on the team in two years for any draft capital that you can get, taking the cap hits early so the next people in leadership have the best possible situation to work from. I would love to be proven wrong, but I can't see anyway that this team, with it's current leadership, cap situation, roster construction are able to even contend for an AFC championship much less a Super Bowl
They can't. They are weak in all areas of the organization from top down. Forget 2025. Clean house, bring in new regime, rebuild the culture (yet again), and start positioning for a real run in 2-3 years.
 
Well, in the specific case of Fuller, there wasn't that much to be gained with a post 6/1 designation, and if they did that, it would certainly limit flexibility going forward.
Then do nothing with Fuller right now. If the post June caps aren't used, then release him with the post June and save another 4,5 million with little dead money. But they did it now. How come? Because something big is coming with a post June designation. I believe a trade of Tyreek uses one of those moves. Somebody can correct me on that.
 
The two obvious ones for now. But who knows maybe they restructure those. But I am not panicking about Fuller at this point. Most normal ppl (looking at you Grier lol) would have a plan in place before cutting someone.
One would hope he has some reasonably priced corners in free agency that he is targeting but I've lost all faith in this staff.
This roster and checking account are so depleted we'll be filling out the 53 with undrafted free agents at this rate.
 
They can't. They are weak in all areas of the organization from top down. Forget 2025. Clean house, bring in new regime, rebuild the culture (yet again), and start positioning for a real run in 2-3 years.
If that were the plan, this year would have been the better opportunity.

So, obviously, that is not the plan. Giving the current regime another shot, for better or worse, almost guarantees more restructures and kicking the can.

That doesn't, necessarily, mean you are wrong about that being the best course but it is not the chosen course.
 
If that were the plan, this year would have been the better opportunity.

So, obviously, that is not the plan. Giving the current regime another shot, for better or worse, almost guarantees more restructures and kicking the can.

That doesn't, necessarily, mean you are wrong about that being the best course but it is not the chosen course.
No doubt Grier is going all out this offseason, he's not helping the next front office in 2026.
 
I may be alone, but, sans OL, this team has talent to win a playoff game. Given the rosters of the past two years, I place blame on Mcd ignoring OL...
I get your point and agree... to a degree. It's obvious that McDingleberry doesn't care about being strong in the trenches and having a strong o-line. However, if Grier were competent, he'd realize that you "win in the trenches" and give McD a strong o-line anyway whether he likes it or not because the GM outranks the HC.
That is more than enough of a track record to prove Grier sucks at drafting. How can we all see what is so obvious, yet Ross continues to employ this buffoon? Again, Ross is the primary problem with this organization. He is 84 years old. Has anyone heard if he is getting ready to relinquish his thrown?!
As I stated above, Grier doesn't feel that the trenches are a priority, and when he does address the o-line, he rarely finds good linemen in the draft, resulting in having to pay for FAs... especially injury-prone ones! He also doesn't seem to believe in building through the draft because he likes to trade away draft picks, so most of the starters weren't even drafted by him. Poor way to build a team.
 
If that were the plan, this year would have been the better opportunity.

So, obviously, that is not the plan. Giving the current regime another shot, for better or worse, almost guarantees more restructures and kicking the can.

That doesn't, necessarily, mean you are wrong about that being the best course but it is not the chosen course.
Lol, I know it's not Ross's plan, but common sense knows that trying to live in a fantasy land in 2025 is fruitless.
 
There are three main stances when it comes to how we fans view the Fins:

1. The current regime has built and runs the best Dolphins team in a long time, but injuries and bad luck kept them from a division title and playoff wins.
2. Grier and/or McDaniel may or may not need to be replaced, but they're still here, so do whatever it takes to help them succeed.
3. Grier and McDaniel have proven that they can't build and run a contender, so blow it up and start over.

Our positions go from one extreme to the other, but we all have one thing in common... wanting to see Miami become relevant and a true contender again. However, we all have different opinions on what it will take to make that happen. This is a discussion forum, so that's what we do. :shrug:

That said, I suppose it's possible to change or alter one's opinion. Most here know that I want Ross to clean house and/or sell the team to an owner who will make better personnel decisions. I feel this way because I believe that a team should be built from the inside out, since you "win in the trenches". Also, successful teams build through the draft. And, since football is a tough, physical game, you need to have a tough, physical team that plays a tough, physical style of football.

However, Grier is building from the outside in, and mostly through FA with far too many bloated contracts given to underperforming and/or injury-prone players. McDaniel lacks experience in the job he was hired to do, doesn't believe in discipline or accountability, and is all about "finesse". IMO, finesse is great when added to a tough, physical team, but a finesse team that can't be tough and physical is exactly what we've seen... a pretender.

For me, the present and future success of the team is what's important, not any individuals. So, while I want them gone, if Grier and McDaniel would actually "wise up", completely change their ways, and turn the team into a true contender, I'll be willing to accept them.
Thabk you for the insightful and detailed response!
 
There are three main stances when it comes to how we fans view the Fins:

1. The current regime has built and runs the best Dolphins team in a long time, but injuries and bad luck kept them from a division title and playoff wins.
2. Grier and/or McDaniel may or may not need to be replaced, but they're still here, so do whatever it takes to help them succeed.
3. Grier and McDaniel have proven that they can't build and run a contender, so blow it up and start over.

Our positions go from one extreme to the other, but we all have one thing in common... wanting to see Miami become relevant and a true contender again. However, we all have different opinions on what it will take to make that happen. This is a discussion forum, so that's what we do. :shrug:

That said, I suppose it's possible to change or alter one's opinion. Most here know that I want Ross to clean house and/or sell the team to an owner who will make better personnel decisions. I feel this way because I believe that a team should be built from the inside out, since you "win in the trenches". Also, successful teams build through the draft. And, since football is a tough, physical game, you need to have a tough, physical team that plays a tough, physical style of football.

However, Grier is building from the outside in, and mostly through FA with far too many bloated contracts given to underperforming and/or injury-prone players. McDaniel lacks experience in the job he was hired to do, doesn't believe in discipline or accountability, and is all about "finesse". IMO, finesse is great when added to a tough, physical team, but a finesse team that can't be tough and physical is exactly what we've seen... a pretender.

For me, the present and future success of the team is what's important, not any individuals. So, while I want them gone, if Grier and McDaniel would actually "wise up", completely change their ways, and turn the team into a true contender, I'll be willing to accept them.
You should turn this into a poll
 
3 starters is a tall ask. In the last 3 drafts he’s produced 2 starters total in Achane and Chop.
Hence my deep, deep pessimism about the outlook for the Dolphins between now and when Stephen Ross' estate eventually sells the team. Grier doesn't have that level of acumen, and Ross has zero clue how to oversee a football operation or evaluate the people he puts in charge.

And to the question posed by BahamaFinFan78, I'm 1000% into camp 3.
 
Its pretty easy to fix our current situation, but the problem is we keep robbing our future cap yers to solve this year. We just need to bite the bullet one year and then we have pretty large cap situations folowing this year. We have lots of space and flexibility in 20256 and 2027, but we dont want to take that away by deferring 2025 cap dollars through restuctuing and June 1st cuts.

PS - our cap situation isnt nearly as bad as people think.
 
There are three main stances when it comes to how we fans view the Fins:

1. The current regime has built and runs the best Dolphins team in a long time, but injuries and bad luck kept them from a division title and playoff wins.
2. Grier and/or McDaniel may or may not need to be replaced, but they're still here, so do whatever it takes to help them succeed.
3. Grier and McDaniel have proven that they can't build and run a contender, so blow it up and start over.

Our positions go from one extreme to the other, but we all have one thing in common... wanting to see Miami become relevant and a true contender again. However, we all have different opinions on what it will take to make that happen. This is a discussion forum, so that's what we do. :shrug:

That said, I suppose it's possible to change or alter one's opinion. Most here know that I want Ross to clean house and/or sell the team to an owner who will make better personnel decisions. I feel this way because I believe that a team should be built from the inside out, since you "win in the trenches". Also, successful teams build through the draft. And, since football is a tough, physical game, you need to have a tough, physical team that plays a tough, physical style of football.

However, Grier is building from the outside in, and mostly through FA with far too many bloated contracts given to underperforming and/or injury-prone players. McDaniel lacks experience in the job he was hired to do, doesn't believe in discipline or accountability, and is all about "finesse". IMO, finesse is great when added to a tough, physical team, but a finesse team that can't be tough and physical is exactly what we've seen... a pretender.

For me, the present and future success of the team is what's important, not any individuals. So, while I want them gone, if Grier and McDaniel would actually "wise up", completely change their ways, and turn the team into a true contender, I'll be willing to accept them.


Perhaps we should think about our views a bit differently. Instead of as the basis for debates and arguments, it may be 'wiser' to view our contributions as part of collective that itself provides insights far better than any particular person's own idea(s).

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If I had to list a few things I think land in the "general consensus" pile:

(1) The exits of Flores & Fangio make us doubt the vision of the franchise.

If Flores wasn't on board from the beginning with 'Tanking for Tua,' he shouldn't have been the guy hired. And if Fangio wanted out to go work for the Eagles, we should've let him go in '23 so he could take the job. We forced both the Tank and Tua on Flores when he apparently had strong opinions against both and we forced Fangio to stay when we knew it was a temporary gig for him and that he had one foot out the door and wanted to go before the season even started.

You can dislike both Flores and Fangio on a personnel level but very rarely do I see Dolphins fans giving the team a pass on this mismanagement. We just hired the wrong guys and it seems like we should've been able to avoid that.

(2) Grier's smaller moves are great. We see Sieler, Jonnu and Brewer and we all think, 'just do more of that!'
(3) We watched this team draft good players: Minkah, Wilkins, Hunt, AVG, Waddle, Tua, Chop, etc.
(4) For as much as people complain, many of the big moves were embraced by the fans: Hill, Armstead, Ramsey, etc.


People say they dislike a lot of how this team builds but they just hate the injuries and the subsequent lack of results. Remove those two factors and the fans actually love this roster. In fact, if you get rid of the injuries alone you probably already have a Playoff win.

You can read the reviews of '22. The fans loved it. The fans were wildly excited to be seen as on par with / competing against the AFCs elites. Anything that puts the team on that footing will be supported by the fans. As soon as the Dolphins get beyond their injury woahs, the fans will be fine with continuing in the same direction. They don't hate this team. They hate being frustrated by it.

(5) The losses of late '23 said a lot about this regimes inability to sustain momentum & produce results.
(6) The ugly losses of '24 painted this regime as dependent on certain gimmicks that tie to certain players.
(7) The in-game mismanagement by MM is frustrating to watch given he's supposed to be super smart.


Those things suggest an unfortunate reality that whoever MM is, he's not really equipped to run a team. Maybe he's a play-designer genius? Maybe he's good at getting along with players? Maybe he brings a certain swagger / excitement to the team? Whatever he brings, there is now a brooding doubt among the general fanbase that he offers much outside of the initial 18 months of quick throws and cheat motions.




The take-away is that the Wisdom of the Crowd is usually the closest thing to correct. So, if we ignore opinions and go by the above it would seem that Chris Grier makes the cut and MM probably doesn't.

If I had to predict how '25 goes, I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised by another solid offseason from the Front Office while being left someone suspect of the coaching, which if exposed, may or may not be bailed out the spectacular play of individually-fantastic players. Kind of sounds like every HC now that I think about it, LOL.

Will that be enough to sustain the team? We'll see.

As the above post put it...this is the best Dolphins team we've seen in a looooong time!
 
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Its pretty easy to fix our current situation, but the problem is we keep robbing our future cap yers to solve this year. We just need to bite the bullet one year and then we have pretty large cap situations folowing this year. We have lots of space and flexibility in 20256 and 2027, but we dont want to take that away by deferring 2025 cap dollars through restuctuing and June 1st cuts.

PS - our cap situation isnt nearly as bad as people think.
What's bad is who the cap is taken up by.

Old ass vets like Ramsey, Hill, Chubb & Armstead. Overrated and over paid player in Waddle & the most limited starting QB in the NFL. And almost all of these guys are injury prone.
 
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