We could still land luck with the 4th or 5th pick

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

there's no chance as long as sam bradford is standing up the rams finish with the top overall pick playin in that crappy division...no chance...none nada zilch

its not like i said they are guaranteed to get the first pick. im just saying their is a chance, and if people on this website can talk how we realisticly can end up with the first overall pick, then you cant dismiss the fact that the rams can also.

i dont care how ****ty their division is. they played in the same ****ty division last year and couldnt even win it then going 7-9. the rams blow just as much as the other teams in their division. have you seen them play this year? which of their games have been competitive?

obviously the odds are highly against them picking 1st overall, as they are against most teams, but to say their is ''zero'', ''nada'', zilich, etc of a chance.

 

[armyphin]

The Vikings could pass on Luck, but it's just as likely they'd draft him since Ponder isn't 1/10 the prospect Luck is, and then trade Ponder.

Draft Luck and give Ponder away and they'd still get the better end of the deal.

 

[Built2Win]

luck will be gone b4 3 somebody will trade the farm

 

[Ilovemyfins4eva]

luck will be gone b4 3 somebody will trade the farm

hopefully that somebody will be us. ill trade anything for the guy.

heck, not only would i trade everything for him, i may be willing to sacrifice sex for a few months to get him. yes i know it would be tough, but in the long run it'd be well worth it.

theirs always self pleasuring.

 

[hoops]

there's a few teams on that bottom 15 list who i think wouldn't want to pay the price to come up for luck...jax may be one with gabbert...washington unfortunately for them is gonna win too many games to be in the hunt...you win 5 or more games and i don't care what you offer...you're getting trumped...someone with a top 5 pick will trump you for andrew luck...guaranteed

 

[dolphone]

Brian Brohm? Dude seriously get a clue.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/4/16/1425289/2008-nfl-draft-retrospective-brian

Learn.

 

[hoops]

its not like i said they are guaranteed to get the first pick. im just saying their is a chance, and if people on this website can talk how we realisticly can end up with the first overall pick, then you cant dismiss the fact that the rams can also.

i dont care how ****ty their division is. they played in the same ****ty division last year and couldnt even win it then going 7-9. the rams blow just as much as the other teams in their division. have you seen them play this year? which of their games have been competitive?

obviously the odds are highly against them picking 1st overall, as they are against most teams, but to say their is ''zero'', ''nada'', zilich, etc of a chance.

you can keep goin to that well if you want to but the rams will not finish with the #1 overall pick this year as long as sam bradford is still standing in that division...it won't happen

but you keep thinkin its possible i guess...whatever floats your boat

 

[dolphone]

The value of quarterbacks is going up all the time. They've never been more directly linked to wins and losses than they are now. Plus, with a rookie cap in place, draft picks have also never been more valuable. And into those upward trend comes Andrew Luck, the best and lowest risk pro-style passer since Peyton Manning.

The notion that no one's traded three first rounders for a player before (edit: this is untrue, the Herschel Walker trade was highly complicated and included a lot of players but Dallas was entitled to three first rounders, two of them conditional) doesn't mean very much, given those variables. In a league where you can have a pretty talented team and go nowhere without an elite quarterback, having that elite quarterback means everything. Therefore, you must be prepared to give up something that approaches everything.

I stand corrected on the Walker trade. However as you mention, two of those were conditionals. Nobody has traded 3 1st straight up.

You can argue as much as you want for the value of QBs, but the truth of the matter is that you don't *have* to give up your entire draft to get a quality QB, and most importantly, giving up an entire draft class cripples a team tremendously. Pray tell, how *did* Minnesota do after that wonderful trade?

Oh, I know. The problem was that they didn't have the almighty QB. Surely New England tanked in 2008, right, by missing Brady for the season? Wait... they didn't! Neither the '93 Dolphins. That's off the cuff, I'm sure I can find plenty more examples.

Look, I'm not arguing Luck isn't a great QB (quite frankly I don't follow college football). But I remember the hype of previous years with other passers. I've already stated them. Brohm was going to be Peyton Manning! And then of course he wasn't.

What happens if Luck gets injured? If he tanks this year? If he comes into the NFL and his hands are too small, or he can't master the playbook, or he's asked to carry a lousy team crippled with a lack of youth (because his team traded an entire draft or two) and he fails? What then? Will you be saying "give him time"?

There's no sure thing in the NFL. And only a sure thing would be worth the kind of trade you're advocating for.

 

[Clipse]

Indeed. No guarantees.

But people talk about Luck like he's the second coming... same talk I heard about Locker... and Quinn before him... and Brian Brohm... and on and on...

If you heard second coming talk about those 3, you were hearing it from some ****tard.

 

[Clipse]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/4/16/1425289/2008-nfl-draft-retrospective-brian

Learn.

So you pulled out some rinky dink Bills website nobody's ever heard of, that homered it up AFTER the draft about Brian Brohm, who was on the Bills at the time. And you used that to make a point? Cool.

 

[phinfann13]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/4/16/1425289/2008-nfl-draft-retrospective-brian

Learn.

So because 1 guy rated him as an 8.4 he was the second coming? He wasn't rated very highly by anybody. He was a second round pick for a reason. Andrew Luck should be rated as a 9.9. You say you don't even follow college football so your opinion on the matter really holds no merit.

 

[MD]

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2010/4/16/1425289/2008-nfl-draft-retrospective-brian

Learn.

Did you comprehend what this guy is saying? You may want to re-read it and FYI. Brian Brohm was not a highly graded and sought after QB in the 2008 draft. You don't need to read The Sporting News to see that.

 

[moonman]

I stand corrected on the Walker trade. However as you mention, two of those were conditionals. Nobody has traded 3 1st straight up.

You can argue as much as you want for the value of QBs, but the truth of the matter is that you don't *have* to give up your entire draft to get a quality QB, and most importantly, giving up an entire draft class cripples a team tremendously. Pray tell, how *did* Minnesota do after that wonderful trade?

Oh, I know. The problem was that they didn't have the almighty QB. Surely New England tanked in 2008, right, by missing Brady for the season? Wait... they didn't! Neither the '93 Dolphins. That's off the cuff, I'm sure I can find plenty more examples.

Look, I'm not arguing Luck isn't a great QB (quite frankly I don't follow college football). But I remember the hype of previous years with other passers. I've already stated them. Brohm was going to be Peyton Manning! And then of course he wasn't.

What happens if Luck gets injured? If he tanks this year? If he comes into the NFL and his hands are too small, or he can't master the playbook, or he's asked to carry a lousy team crippled with a lack of youth (because his team traded an entire draft or two) and he fails? What then? Will you be saying "give him time"?

There's no sure thing in the NFL. And only a sure thing would be worth the kind of trade you're advocating for.

Brohm was never the prospect Luck is. When people say that Luck is the best prospect since Manning they mean just that. We have not seen a better looking NFL-ready guy since Manning. You really....REALLY...can't compare this to Brian freaking Brohm.

Put it this way: each year there is a QB or 2 who get hyped up by default. Whoever is the highest rated QB gets all the hype. This time you have a guy who is legitimately deserving of the hype. If I'm in charge of the Dolphins I'm doing WHATEVER it takes to get Luck.

 

[dolphinators13]

Manning does not have that kind of power..in the end he is just another player..Polian will get rid of him if he thinks Luck is the real deal. They drafted Manning he got them out of obscruity...But in the end its a bussiness and I Polian would not blink at the chance to get another franchise signal caller.

I live in Indianapolis and Manning is not just another player. He built Lucas Oil Stadium by himself. They are not going to take Luck if Manning plays for another 5 years.

I can tell you this, the Colts will have a better record than us at the end of the season. They still play the Jags, twice, Titians twice, Chiefs, Panthers, and Cincy.

Polian does not take Luck. They will take an offensive lineman to Help Manning trust me.

 

[moonman]

And I really love the argument that no QB is a lock. No NFL player is a lock! Look at Robert Gallery or Vernon Gholston. Does this mean we just shouldn't draft anyone?