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We lost out on Brees twice, no way we lose out on Manning

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I think the two black eyes for this teams history, if you could narrow it down to only two, would be Jamar Fletcher and Daunte Culpepper, the two shmucks we took instead of Drew Brees. Is Matt Flynn going to be the third? Or are we going to man up, put on our big boy pants, and find a way to make the best quarterback of a generation our franchise starter for the next 5 years?

Seriously if we blow this, I can't imagine saying to myself for the rest of my life; "We could have had Peyton Manning"
 
here we go . . .

i'd rather not play the role of the jets/favre.

i hafta say i hope we pass on manning. breese situation has no comparison to this.
 
Brett Favre is NOT peyton manning. Manning relies on his brain and his reads of a defense. Last time I checked nothing was wrong with Manning's cognitive skills. Favre has always been a gunslinger. It made total sense that he'd fail, he was losing his physical ability and thats all he ever relied on. And as far as brees situation having no comparison, I fail to see how a quarterback coming off of an injury and being replaced by a younger, promising qb is any different than what's happening in Indie. Peyton has all the skills, all of the ability, and after nearly two years rehabbing, will totally be able to play again next year.

A Peyton Manning isn't someone that comes around EVER. Brees was a rarity too. Amazing qbs dont fall in your lap. But this situation might be the perfect storm for us to land a Superbowl MVP
 
testtubetimmy said:
I think the two black eyes for this teams history, if you could narrow it down to only two, would be Jamar Fletcher and Daunte Culpepper, the two shmucks we took instead of Drew Brees. Is Matt Flynn going to be the third? Or are we going to man up, put on our big boy pants, and find a way to make the best quarterback of a generation our franchise starter for the next 5 years?

Seriously if we blow this, I can't imagine saying to myself for the rest of my life; "We could have had Peyton Manning"
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What if Manning isn't physically able to play anymore???? Unless you are an M.D., who has inspected his neck and watched Manning throw the ball within the past week, you have no way of knowing whether he will be close to what he once was.
 
Favre was 40 years old, Manning is 35. No comparison if he's healthy.
 
Roman529 said:
What if Manning isn't physically able to play anymore???? Unless you are an M.D., who has inspected his neck and watched Manning throw the ball within the past week, you have no way of knowing whether he will be close to what he once was.
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Exactly, not to mention Peyton is 36 years old. What if he wants 4 years with a huge signing bonus? I could live with 2-3 years with incentives for games played, but I have to believe someone will be willing to pay him a ton up front.

Brees was much younger at the time.....though I will acknowledge the OP that we clearly did blow it when assessing Brees' health outlook.
 
Roman529 said:
What if Manning isn't physically able to play anymore???? Unless you are an M.D., who has inspected his neck and watched Manning throw the ball within the past week, you have no way of knowing whether he will be close to what he once was.
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Exactly, not to mention Peyton is 36 years old. What if he wants 4 years with a huge signing bonus? I could live with 2-3 years with incentives for games played, but I have to believe someone will be willing to pay him a ton up front.

Brees was much younger at the time.....though I will acknowledge the OP that we clearly did blow it when accessing Brees' health outlook.
 
IF he's healthy and cheap / free, you get him. Period. If he has any chance of performing like 2009/10 Manning, he could take this team to a Super Bowl, no question.
 
Actually the time it really counted was when we could have drafted Brees instead of Jamar Fletcher 6 slots earlier. We could have drafted the great Aaron Rodgers instead of watching Ronnie Brown become an afterthought on the Eagles "DreamTeam."

Saban as much as I despise him was right in yielding to his physicians' opinions that Brees had about a 25% of full recovery. So that one counts about as much for me as would going all in on a 36yo QB with 3 serious neck operations over the last 18 months with an outcome that would defy the heavy odds against recovery being resolved probably subsequent to the act of signing him.

Cry about Brees in 01 or Rodgers in 05. Not Brees in 06 or an uncertain aged QB in 2012 who may never recover and even if he does, is one neck nudge away from IR.
 
testtubetimmy said:
Brett Favre is NOT peyton manning. Manning relies on his brain and his reads of a defense. Last time I checked nothing was wrong with Manning's cognitive skills. Favre has always been a gunslinger. It made total sense that he'd fail, he was losing his physical ability and thats all he ever relied on. And as far as brees situation having no comparison, I fail to see how a quarterback coming off of an injury and being replaced by a younger, promising qb is any different than what's happening in Indie. Peyton has all the skills, all of the ability, and after nearly two years rehabbing, will totally be able to play again next year.

A Peyton Manning isn't someone that comes around EVER. Brees was a rarity too. Amazing qbs dont fall in your lap. But this situation might be the perfect storm for us to land a Superbowl MVP
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Peyton used his cerebral skills to manage the calls. He used his strong arm to place balls in tight windows making "impossible" throws only he could make.

That last sentence no longer applies.

If we couldn't learn from Marino's demise, Favre's demise or the Culpepper/Brees debacle then we'll never learn. We don't need someone else's cast off.

It surprises me that every argument to support getting Peyton hinges on his health.

Common sense tells us there might be 2 teams in the entire NFL that wouldn't want Peyton Manning HEALTHY for 2 or 3 years, including the Colts! So why is it the only teams in the discussion are losing teams?

Because they are praying for a MIRACLE.

Hoping or saying he is healthy doesn't make him healthy. And it doesn't change the facts: 3 surgeries, doesn't personally know how healthy he is or if the surgery worked and being dumped by his current team.

The damaged nerve affects his ability to throw. As a person who suffers from nerve problems (sciatica) I can tell you that nerve damage is a silent degeneration of muscle strength. Sometimes the pain is obvious. Sometimes it's not. But every minute of every day the affected muscles are slowly getting damaged from overuse and uncontrollable twitching, noticeable or not.

All the rehabbing in the world won't return Peyton to full strength.

We don't need to buy the Peyton Manning legacy. It's not going to win us any games. What we need is a QB who is healthy and has his future ahead of him, not behind him.
 
Can you honestly say Peyton manning won't win another Super Bowl, with a straight face? May it be in Miami. We have running backs. Receivers. Defense.
 
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