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a traditional run game. I like Henning and I realize he had all these gadget plays for ronnie and ricky because the lack of talent on the OL

But

next year I want to see more traditional runs from the line of scrimmage. These guys are powerful runners, we need to start using their strengths. We can't establish a pounding running game with all these gadgets.
 
We had a traditional run game, but the Ravens just owned it. Also the interior line play from us was poor.
 
Yeah yesterday the traditional run game was not the answer. But i had been screaming all year at this team for refusing to run the ball against teams like The Jets and the Rams and the 49ers, and as soon as they did they were able to get the game well in hand.
 
a traditional run game. I like Henning and I realize he had all these gadget plays for ronnie and ricky because the lack of talent on the OL

But

next year I want to see more traditional runs from the line of scrimmage. These guys are powerful runners, we need to start using their strengths. We can't establish a pounding running game with all these gadgets.
You missed the point of this season entirely.

The core philosophy of the Trifecta is to pound the ball. They did not have the horses in the o-line to get that done. You can sit here all day long and say "let's establish the run, let's be more physical, let's have a vertical passing game, let's pressure the passer more..." and on and on...but if you don't have the horses to do so, forgettaboutit.

The coaching staff resorted to the Wildcat to mix things up, create some space, and create mismatches when the physical TALENT on the team wasn't enough to create the mismatch on it's own. The team would love nothing more than to run the ball like the Ravens did yesterday against our overmatched front 7. They do not have the talent to do so.

The Fins have one (maybe two) spots locked up on the o-line long term : Long and Smiley (maybe). The other three spots are woefully undermanned. Look for the Trifecta to address this in a big way with some MAMMOTH linemen coming on board.
 
a traditional run game. I like Henning and I realize he had all these gadget plays for ronnie and ricky because the lack of talent on the OL

But

next year I want to see more traditional runs from the line of scrimmage. These guys are powerful runners, we need to start using their strengths. We can't establish a pounding running game with all these gadgets.
Well like you said it is hard to do that without a good offensive. Doesn't help that both starting guards got hurt. Just be nice to get one of those guys back next year at %100.
 
The core philosophy of the Trifecta is to pound the ball. They did not have the horses in the o-line to get that done. You can sit here all day long and say "let's establish the run, let's be more physical, let's have a vertical passing game, let's pressure the passer more..." and on and on...but if you don't have the horses to do so, forgettaboutit.

In a playoff game like that, home vs. a rookie QB, there's nothing wrong with plenty of 2 yard runs followed by a punt. That was my frustration on Sunday. The Dolphins basically played scared and ignored Football 101.

Allowing the other side to out rush you 33 attempts to 21 is essentially a forfeit. I wish the significance of rushing attempts were better understood. Plus, many of our rushing attempts were dainty, the timed handoffs sweeps to Ronnie or Ricky. You think Baltimore was concerned about those? I guarantee the coaches were laughing at them, i.e. Miami is afraid to test us straight ahead, or even use their standard Wildcat package, so now they are resorting to wide finesse gimmickry.

The Wildcat was all but ignored and when it was stuffed a couple of times we never used any of the wrinkles out of it. Either play basic football and hope to win via key big play or two, or go out with your trickeration arsenal left on the floor. Instead, we relied on a weird hybrid. I loved Pennington's season but asking him to drop back and test the Ravens deep without a running back drop was the height of masochism. I remember begging for conservative calls to get into the half at 3-3, before the Reed debacle.

There were many great aspects to the offense this year but I anticipated more of a thug mentality when the opportunity was there. The quick handoffs to Polite on short yardage was the best new wrinkle I've seen in a Dolphin running game in more than 20 years. For years we've been dependent on either slow developing plays to the tailback in that situation, or a wimpy pass out of shotgun. We needed to feature much more of that play, trap designs even on early downs. I remember one on Sunday that was effective. Then you can run tons of adaptations out of it.

One thing that impressed me all season: We stayed away from empty backfields. That would have been suicidal with weak armed Pennington. Teams would have salivated to rotate upward and attack Pennington with no back to protect him. But with our standard action of Ronnie an excellent blocker motioning back to the formation, it caused defenses to be cautious, unsure of what the final formation would be.

Next year will feature more drive blocking. Even if our record is worse, once we get to the point 30+ rushes is the norm and anything less is unnaceptable and unthinkable, playoff victories will be attainable.
 
they did tjhe wildcat BECAUSE WE COULDNT run out of
standard formations.

our rb's are mediocre. ricky is just biding his time and colecting his
child support money. RONNIE is like he always is, hot one minute
extremely cold or injured for the the next 50 minutes.

its time to get a REAL center, a REAL rb and a couple REAL wr's!!

then we wont have to run wildcat type stuff all the time.
 
on the topic of the o line. i really think donald thomas will be a solid player when he is healthy. let's not forget about him.
 
In every game this season we gave up on the run game way to early. I recall numerous games where Ricky and Ronnie would be on a hot streak pounding the rock but Henning would start throwing the ball.

I like the wildcat formation, some do some don't. It's really just a cool thing that we call our own. I really hope when Henning leaves David Lee gets a shot at Offensive coordinator.
 
Well our wildcat crap fizzled out more and more after the New England game. Baltimore stuffed our wildcat up our collective rearend. It's time to stop being cute and stop running dumb gadget stuff.
 
The problem is our o-line. If we had guys like Flozell Adams and Leonard Davis I guarentee you we'd pound the rock almost every down. But we don't and we are working on that problem...
 
People think cause we made the Playoffs that means something. It came down to the last game, and we were fortunate to have a soft schedule. This staff squeezed everything out of this team and took it as far as it could with what we had. Think of it like a race, Sparano got this car rolling down the home stretch on fumes, and stalled 3 games before the finish line. This team just didnt have the "gas" or talent to go any further. This speaks volumes of our head coach though. Imagine what Sparano can do with more talent? Giggity.
 
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