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Weatherford speaks again and Marc Caputo rips Steve Ross.

The article reads like it was written by a Weatherford cronie regardless of how the vote went. I still feel like asking the state for money will always be an unwise decision for Miami based ideas being that the rest of Florida is completely different than Miami
 
Since the May 3 session ended, the Dolphins have shown anything but a desire to be constructive, at least regarding public dialogue about what happened to its bill in the Florida House. And the portion of its fans or the general public who are utterly clueless about how the Legislature works are all stirred up by the Dolphins-spread myth that Weatherford killed the bill.

That's an exaggeration. The Dolphins bill stalled in the House.

First: it never was put on the agenda in the House budget committee by Chairman Seth McKeel. The budget committee was its last committee stop. Technically, under legislative process, that's a major killer.

Second: a similar measure that passed the Senate cleared that chamber too late in the session to make it easy to take up in the last week in the House without a two-thirds vote. I said as much in this column and repeatedly indicated in blog posts and on Twitter that the Dolphins' had problems. I was ignored. Had the bill arrived in time (on Monday before about 5 p.m. in this case) the House Rules Committee could have put it on the agenda to be voted on. It didn't. The rules committee, chaired by Rep. Rob Schenck could have made a special effort to agenda the bill "if received" by the Senate. But it didn't. So blame Schenck, too, as well as Dolphins-opposing members of his committee like future speakers Richard Corcoran and Jose Oliva.

Third: Oliva is a good example of the real nexus of opposition: Miami-Dade's Republican delegation in the House. A majority opposed the Dolphins bill. Why? Perhaps because, under the structure of representative government, they held the office most-close to constituents in the Legislature and realized that the people of Miami-Dade didn't want this (cf. the results last night). And they were stirring up opposition among other Republicans of the Florida House, where the GOP has a majority. The ring leaders: Carlos Trujillo, Michael Bileca and Jose Javier Rodriguez (who's a Democrat).
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Said it in the other thread, but it needs repeating: it seems our fans owe Weatherford an apology email. Cant wait to see quotes from the emails, it should be good stuff.
 
Good article. Thanks for posting it.

I just wish so many fans wouldn't take all their cues on how to feel about things from the organization. The bill failed, the Dolphins blamed Weatherford so then the fans did. Automatically, like your brain telling your mouth to chew.
 
I don't know who Marc Caputo is, and frankly I don't care. It does not vindicate Weatherford at all. Actually, IMHO, it makes his actions look even worse. If it was going to fail anyway, and the Dolphins organization was paying for it, why not let it continue? It smells of dirty politics and assuming that the early returns were going to be the final results is a joke.
 
I am not a fan of the stadium plan, but that doesn't mean I am impressed by Weatherford. There's a logical disconnect to say "I didn't allow the vote to take place, and see I was right, it lost anyway." There are two issues. The Dolphins were willing to take their chances with the voters. The House didn't let that happen. It's that the house did not let the voters decide their own fate that the Dolphins are griping about. To say "see the voters didn't like the plan" breaks the chain of logic.

Hopefully, the stadium will decay further to the point that repair will be impossible, and Miami won't get any major events. Then the public will help build a new stadium by around 2020. That will be a win-win for Dolphin fans who want a more significant home field advantage. Propping up that old stadium in that awful location would have just been bad news all around.
 
Austin Tatious said:
I am not a fan of the stadium plan, but that doesn't mean I am impressed by Weatherford. There's a logical disconnect to say "I didn't allow the vote to take place, and see I was right, it lost anyway." There are two issues. The Dolphins were willing to take their chances with the voters. The House didn't let that happen. It's that the house did not let the voters decide their own fate that the Dolphins are griping about. To say "see the voters didn't like the plan" breaks the chain of logic.

Hopefully, the stadium will decay further to the point that repair will be impossible, and Miami won't get any major events. Then the public will help build a new stadium by around 2020. That will be a win-win for Dolphin fans who want a more significant home field advantage. Propping up that old stadium in that awful location would have just been bad news all around.
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That's not what was going to happen though. The referendum could have gone ahead and passed but that doesn't mean the stadium would necessarily have been "upgraded." The plan always had to be approved by the state, no matter the results of the referendum.
 
SnakeoilSeller said:
I don't know who Marc Caputo is, and frankly I don't care. It does not vindicate Weatherford at all. Actually, IMHO, it makes his actions look even worse. If it was going to fail anyway, and the Dolphins organization was paying for it, why not let it continue? It smells of dirty politics and assuming that the early returns were going to be the final results is a joke.
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WOW, THIS!!! Totally agree.
 
Who can blame Ross at this point for moving up I 95 or out of the region where the demographics that fill seats involve throwing, not kicking "footballs." ? Just sell the property to the Seminoles for another Casino, or take a charitable writeoff by contributing it for a religious compound or whatever.

If that ever happened, hopefully all the local Fins obstructionists won't be complaining that they've lost their team in the quintessential parable of "reaping what you sow." I haven't had a chance to check out Braman's local repub contributions but I have read that the hypocritical, carpetbagging hated in Philly cheap former Eagles owner is attempting to build a power base with puppets here and would not be surprised if they're doing his bidding and will be reaping the financial benefits one way or another.
 
I have no proof of this but it SEEMS the Marlins did everything the wrong way and got their stadium. Dolphins did everything right and got shut out. If the Dolphins had played dirty, maybe they would've gotten their stadium.

I seem to remember that there were some commissioners in Miami who were against Marlins ballpark, had a meeting with the Marlins that night, and the next day their minds were changed. Wonder what happened in that meeting.. :err:
 
dcnr226 said:
I have no proof of this but it SEEMS the Marlins did everything the wrong way and got their stadium. Dolphins did everything right and got shut out. If the Dolphins had played dirty, maybe they would've gotten their stadium.

I seem to remember that there were some commissioners in Miami who were against Marlins ballpark, had a meeting with the Marlins that night, and the next day their minds were changed. Wonder what happened in that meeting.. :err:
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The Marlins had their stadium proposal rejected. It took them years of planning and deal making to get it done.

The Dolphins tried to rush a proposal together in a few months and force it through. Now when it blew up in their face, they are having a temper tantrum.

That tends to be ignored on here by those that make their opinion based on how the team views a situation. From top to bottom this deal was an exercise in incompetence and hypocrisy. Personally, i love it. I think the entire meltdown is hilarious, especially the fear mongering over the team moving. Best part, in my humble opinion: this taking place a few months after the election. You know, where socialism was brought up every 3rd word and Ross donated heavily to the party he is now attacking. :lol:
Either way, the Dolphins didnt do anything "right" about this. They made up a flawed deal, they refused to work through the political process, they fought against a public vote, they are handling a political setback like children, etc, etc, etc. Say what you will about the Marlins stadium, they worked towards it "correctly", even if they did stab everyone in the back after they got what they wanted.
 
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