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Why is the Wes Welker trade so universally praised on this board? Samson Satele is absurdly overrated by this message board. Welker is exactly what we could use right now, a tough hard nosed WR, he would be great with Penningtons passing game.
 
I may be wrong but wasn't he a restricted free agent that we put a second round tender on? A seecond round tender shows that we were actually trying to keep him. NE came in and offered an absurd amount of money to him at the time and quite frankly this team was not in a position to pay him that much. So yes we lost him, but it is not because we shopped him around and wanted to get rid of him. Who really expected someone to give up a second round pic for him? Again, I may be off a little on the specifics but I think that this is what happened.
 
Bin.

This has been covered ad nauseum.

It's in the past, let it go and move on to the future please.
 
I may be wrong but wasn't he a restricted free agent that we put a second round tender on? A seecond round tender shows that we were actually trying to keep him. NE came in and offered an absurd amount of money to him at the time and quite frankly this team was not in a position to pay him that much. So yes we lost him, but it is not because we shopped him around and wanted to get rid of him. Who really expected someone to give up a second round pic for him? Again, I may be off a little on the specifics but I think that this is what happened.

Im not saying thats not true, but people here act like it was a good thing we have satle instead of Welker.
 
Lets see what the great Wes Welker does this year without Brady. My guess, not much.

As for Satele, hes a great player. It was a good trade.
 
I think it's funny when people either praise satele as awesome or subpar. He's neither. I'd grade satele as an above average center...maybe a pro bowl down the road. People don't realize that Satele works directly with both guards (depending on the play) so any deficiencies (like a ton pressure up front) is magnified on him.

All I'm saying is..spread out the honor/dishonor.
 
The reason people use it is because it was so stupid to make that trade. You have NE who's already good and than you give him another weapon to use against us. That would be like going over to a robber and saying here's a gun, take my money.
 
I may be wrong but wasn't he a restricted free agent that we put a second round tender on? A seecond round tender shows that we were actually trying to keep him. NE came in and offered an absurd amount of money to him at the time and quite frankly this team was not in a position to pay him that much. So yes we lost him, but it is not because we shopped him around and wanted to get rid of him. Who really expected someone to give up a second round pic for him? Again, I may be off a little on the specifics but I think that this is what happened.

Your correct. We were going to lose him one way or the other. We put the 2nd rd tender on him. NE could have had him for only the 2nd by putting a poison pill in the contract but the league was frowning on those contracts at that point. So in the end we traded him for the 2nd and got an additional 7th out of the deal. I forget who that 7th was used on now.

While I agree that Welker was doing well for us out of the slot and on special teams. People tend to ignore that we didnt have any one of Brady's calaber to throw him the ball or another receiver of Moss's calaberr to take so much pressure off of him. He went to a perfect situation in NE and made the most of it.

Satele on the other hand is doing well here as part of an very young offensive line on a rebuilding team. He is only going to get better with the team over the next couple of seasons while Welker would have been wasted here and be in decline by the time we begin to make a push.
 
Your correct. We were going to lose him one way or the other. We put the 2nd rd tender on him. NE could have had him for only the 2nd by putting a poison pill in the contract but the league was frowning on those contracts at that point. So in the end we traded him for the 2nd and got an additional 7th out of the deal. I forget who that 7th was used on now.

While I agree that Welker was doing well for us out of the slot and on special teams. People tend to ignore that we didnt have any one of Brady's calaber to throw him the ball or another receiver of Moss's calaberr to take so much pressure off of him. He went to a perfect situation in NE and made the most of it.

Satele on the other hand is doing well here as part of an very young offensive line on a rebuilding team. He is only going to get better with the team over the next couple of seasons while Welker would have been wasted here and be in decline by the time we begin to make a push.

Exactly, Welker wouldn't have put up the same numbers here last year as he did in New England so this argument is a moot point. It was a good trade for the Dolphins. The Welker that you saw with the Patriots wouldn't have been the Welker you saw with the Dolphins.
 
Im REALLY, REALLY, CLOSE to starting up the Satele blows campagne and being hated on by another group of homers. I cant do it yet though. He did start 16 games last year as a rookie, but he definately needs to improve his play or I wont be able to handle how much credit he gets for not playing well around here on HomerHeaven.

But, yea the 2nd poster is correct. We put 2nd round tender on the guy and the Patsies made an offer we simply wouldve been foolish to match, so we took the picks. Wouldve been nice to turn those picks into better players though.
 
Better question: Why can't people do a little research into the trade and then GET OVER IT?
 
Welker was gone regardless and if anyone is overrated it is Welker
 
There are more important things to take care of and that was the situation here in Miami. We have had one of the worst offensive lines in the last 7 seasons, so we needed to desperately make up for damage that was done through the previous administrations.
 
Im not saying thats not true, but people here act like it was a good thing we have satle instead of Welker.
No they don't. They just know what happened and they're looking at the positive of a bad situation. I'm really tired of this topic. Do you think people in Cleveland still complain about the Paul Warfield trade?
 
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