Western World vs. Eastern World

[4evaFinz]

I was the #1 salesperson in my office last year, and if I did what he did, I'd be gone in a second!

If it was because of drugs, I would most likely be given the chance to get in rehab and work my way back. But if I left and traveled the world to find myself, I'd be a goner.

PS

No offense taken, sports stars and movie stars and for that fact white collar workers get away with stuff that the common folks would not.

Well I agree with that at least. It also scares me we live in a world like that...

 

[yankeehillbilly]

Yup.

Ricky got his job back because he is an asset. I don't mean to offend you NJFINSFAN1 but do you consider yourself an asset to your company? I mean how many Ricky Williams' can the Miami Dolphins sign? Then how many workers can your company hire?

(Not implying your incapable of your job, but you could be replaced. Ricky can't, that is why he is accepted back.)

oh, believe me...Ricky can be replaced, and probably by one of the guys on our own team. Ricky is very good at his job, but he is not irreplacable.

 

[StLouisFinFan]

He's a nut case anyway you spell it! He just happens to be good at football!

The multitudes considered Albert Einstein a nut case...turns out he just saw things from a different angle...thank God there was an Albert Einstein...without him, we'd be stuck with insightful visionaries like yourself to blaze our trails into the future.

 

[McDuffie81]

The multitudes considered Albert Einstein a nut case...turns out he just saw things from a different angle...thank God there was an Albert Einstein...without him, we'd be stuck with insightful visionaries like yourself to blaze our trails into the future.

Geez cut the guy some slack. He was playing around. He wasnt trying to get into a deep conversation about it. Some people man :shakeno: .

 

[StLouisFinFan]

Geez cut the guy some slack. He was playing around. He wasnt trying to get into a deep conversation about it. Some people man :shakeno: .

Didn't sound that way to me...sounded like an attack on another man's character...sounded like he had reduced an insightful thread to a mere one-liner red-neck slap in the face comment...and with so many hints as to his jesting (see the laughing smileys and numerous "lol"s)...sorry, I sure was off base with that one...thanks for setting me straight.

 

[McDuffie81]

Didn't sound that way to me...sounded like an attack on another man's character...sounded like he had reduced an insightful thread to a mere one-liner red-neck slap in the face comment...and with so many hints as to his jesting (see the laughing smileys and numerous "lol"s)...sorry, I sure was off base with that one...thanks for setting me straight.

Im not trying to set anyone straight.....but your welcome.

 

[Maynard the Hammer]

I would just like to point out during Ricky's "time away from football" he spent alot of time in Asia. As he has mentioned he spent alot of time "getting in touch with his spirituality". This is the way many (not trying to globalize) people in Asia spend their lives.

thats a rather broad statement. radical islam is taking a foothold in asia. chaina has over a billion people and barely allows its citizens freedom of religion and constantly harrass religious groups. i

not everybody in asia is mellow, peace and freedom loving

The Eastern World does not measure success by accomplishments, but rather the gaining of knowledge and learning from mistakes.

ahh...im sure you've spent decades studying the sociological respones to personal failure in Asian cultures

But they do not dwell on mistakes, it is looked at as just an action, and they accept that.

so true

Ricky has returned to the Western World with these beliefs.

and bankrupt

To us it is very awkward, but to him, it is just who he is.

and the social anxiety disorder he says he has

Ricky is here to do the best he can, but his life does not revolve around his success on the field. He does not have goals to be the best, but he will play his best. I personally just hope his best, is the best. My point in this thread is, do not take what Ricky says into your own perception, try to think of it from a foreign aspect. What seems strange to us, is very normal to others.

 

[DolfanTom]

He's a nut case anyway you spell it! He just happens to be good at football!

This is perhaps the most intelligent post I have ever seen on this site! If you really think about it, this is so true! The man is bonkers, but he sure can run with the football! What do we care what he does in his spare time, if he's running for multiple touchdowns against the Jets!

 

[TeeMoney]

To the average American: doing illegal drugs (after being offered assistance for his addiction, and repeatedly performing the illegal act - Courtney Love, Ricky Williams...) Quitting your job where you have the honor and responsibility of being the most important person in that organization, skipping town on your responsibilities as a Father to your many out-of-wedlock born children and removing the source of income that was supporting them, going on an egomaniacal media circus to focus attention on your actions and giving the symbolic finger to the people who care for you or depended upon you upholding your responsibilities as a co-worker and a recognized member of the community that opened their doors for you... all of these things make the average American take notice, and dissapprove of Ricky's actions. People can defend him by cloaking themselves in the honor of his conceited actions of finding himself, but I find that a pathetic excuse for the effect he had on the children he *******ized, the co-workers he spurned, and the organization that created the opportunity for him to reach this pinnacle in life.

 

[DolfanTom]

To the average American: doing illegal drugs (after being offered assistance for his addiction, and repeatedly performing the illegal act - Courtney Love, Ricky Williams...) Quitting your job where you have the honor and responsibility of being the most important person in that organization, skipping town on your responsibilities as a Father to your many out-of-wedlock born children and removing the source of income that was supporting them, going on an egomaniacal media circus to focus attention on your actions and giving the symbolic finger to the people who care for you or depended upon you upholding your responsibilities as a co-worker and a recognized member of the community that opened their doors for you... all of these things make the average American take notice, and dissapprove of Ricky's actions. People can defend him by cloaking themselves in the honor of his conceited actions of finding himself, but I find that a pathetic excuse for the effect he had on the children he *******ized, the co-workers he spurned, and the organization that created the opportunity for him to reach this pinnacle in life.

Thank you! This is what drove me nuts during that 60 Minutes interview when he said he didn't have anything to be sorry for! How this guy could be oblivious to all you say above is amazing to me. If you think about it, he really did hide all the negatives of what he did in his personal quest to find himself or whatever it was that he was doing. Anyone that defended him (Jim Brown, etc.) would always skirt the fact that he F'ed over so many people with his selfish behavior! It was a bunch of BS if you ask me! Still, if he runs for many TDs this year, I'll sorta cheer for him.

 

[HysterikiLL]

I don't see your point? Everyone already knows why Ricky has a job.

You still have a very one sided view on the subject. He has different views about things and so you boil it all down to him being a "nut-case".

You having to work everyday like most people, to provide for a family is no excuse for your ignorant one sided views and judgement upon others who have different views or opinions.

Suffix all but derived from the point, I do find your overbearing irrelevance to be somewhat hypocritical. You seem to stand in great depths to promote the worldy differentiation of opinions and beliefs, yet fail to live up to your own cause by shutting down another board member for giving his frame of opinion on the issue. 2 + 2 doesn't equal five. Feel me?

 

[StLouisFinFan]

To the average American: doing illegal drugs (after being offered assistance for his addiction, and repeatedly performing the illegal act - Courtney Love, Ricky Williams...) Quitting your job where you have the honor and responsibility of being the most important person in that organization, skipping town on your responsibilities as a Father to your many out-of-wedlock born children and removing the source of income that was supporting them, going on an egomaniacal media circus to focus attention on your actions and giving the symbolic finger to the people who care for you or depended upon you upholding your responsibilities as a co-worker and a recognized member of the community that opened their doors for you... all of these things make the average American take notice, and dissapprove of Ricky's actions. People can defend him by cloaking themselves in the honor of his conceited actions of finding himself, but I find that a pathetic excuse for the effect he had on the children he *******ized, the co-workers he spurned, and the organization that created the opportunity for him to reach this pinnacle in life.

Good points. Hard to argue with them. I'm kinda on the fence with the issue. See both sides. He sure made it easy to not like his attitude. I guess when it comes right down to it, he is an emotionally immature person who felt trapped into a corner and just ran as fast and as far as he could away from emotions that scared him. It's not exactly the kind of attitude we Americans typically find appealing, especially if you're French (lol). But, having said that, I still won't cast judgement on a man until I've had an opportunity to see things through his eyes. You just never know what will make a man do the things he does.

 

[StLouisFinFan]

Suffix all but derived from the point, I do find your overbearing irrelevance to be somewhat hypocritical. You seem to stand in great depths to promote the worldy differentiation of opinions and beliefs, yet fail to live up to your own cause by shutting down another board member for giving his frame of opinion on the issue. 2 + 2 doesn't equal five. Feel me?

It's called calling a spade a spade. Calling someone out for childish name calling does'nt amount to being a hypocrite. I'll demonstrate my point using extremes: If guy A shoots guy B because he was of an unwelcomed nationality/race/religion, is guy C a hypocrite for bringing guy A up on charges for flat out being wrong? NO..wrong is wrong anyway you cut it.

 

[catapano]

dude what are you talking about?

 

[LittlePaulie]

Ignorance is pouring out of your post.

Don't play the fool, that is looking for answers! We ain't dumb! We know that you set this thread for confrontation! All good but I don't play!