What About McFadden?

[Glacier]

I see Miami's picks all over the place....

Some say Ryan. Some say move back. Some say Dorsey, some say Ellis.

I haven't seen any Miami Fans talking about drafting McFadden, at all.

No love for McFadden out East?

 

[RickyWilliams]

Much respect for the guy yes, but you don't use the first pick on a RB when that is your teams only strenth. The O-line has potential, but can't be considered a strength with the way their play degraded slowly the last half of the season.

 

[Glacier]

Much respect for the guy yes, but you don't use the first pick on a RB when that is your teams only strenth. The O-line has potential, but can't be considered a strength with the way their play degraded slowly the last half of the season.

sigh....wish Cowboys fans saw it that way.

What did you guys think about the supposed rumors of Marion Barber + #22 and #28 picks for, the #1 pick?

 

[#1dolphinsfan]

McFadden is Good but we have ALOT of Talent at the RB postion

 

[Stitches]

sigh....wish Cowboys fans saw it that way.

What did you guys think about the supposed rumors of Marion Barber + #22 and #28 picks for, the #1 pick?

I think it is a nice fairy tale for some dolphins fans, and a nightmare scenario for most sane cowboy fans.

 

[RickyWilliams]

I would take it without thinking twice, even tho I don't think there is anyway JJ would pull the trigger. But if it did, I would turn right around and put Marion on the trading block if Ronnie looks to be good by the start of the season. If Ronnie isn't good to go, then you play Marion and put him on the trade block next year. Also you would then have another top RB on your roster incase say Ronnie gets injured again. I don't think Ronnie is prone to injuries like some simply b/c of the injuries he has sustained, but on the same thought the verdict still isn't out on his durability.

 

[cnc66]

sigh....wish Cowboys fans saw it that way.

What did you guys think about the supposed rumors of Marion Barber + #22 and #28 picks for, the #1 pick?

fantasy football.. Jones might trade up, but why give up all that value when he can still get Mcf at 2, 3, 4... none of those picks come with the first overall pricetag.

 

[FINSFAN2781]

I still fail to realize how everyone thinks a backfield of Brown, Williams, Booker, Chatman, Cobbs and Gado is a solid backfield.

Brown - Who knows how he will be when he returns. He may be fine, he may not. You cant just have hope for a RB.

Williams - This guy is not reliable. Period. Hes proved it time and time again. Yeah hes cheap, so what. Hes 1 failed test from being kicked out permanently. Not only that, Parcells said he wants no thugs, criminals or problem children. Well thats exactly what Ricky is, a problem child. Its time to cut ties with this guy.

Chatman - is a FA. Who knows if he will be back. He was good when he played, but again, its nowhere near definite he will be back.

Cobbs and Gado - Theres nothing to even say about these guys.

Booker - is as close to a sure thing as we have. This guy will have a nice future with Miami. No issues with this guy.

Parcells already cut 10 people and you know there will be more. He is building his foundation. If you want to move forward and improve, its out with the old and in with the new. Ive said it before and I'll say it again. Everyone wants this team to improve, yet they want to keep the same players. Sorry, it doesnt work that way. You improve by bringing in better players.

Now I ask again, how can anyone think this is a solid RB situation?

 

[Colorado Dolfan]

I still fail to realize how everyone thinks a backfield of Brown, Williams, Booker, Chatman, Cobbs and Gado is a solid backfield.

Brown - Who knows how he will be when he returns. He may be fine, he may not. You cant just have hope for a RB.

Williams - This guy is not reliable. Period. Hes proved it time and time again. Yeah hes cheap, so what. Hes 1 failed test from being kicked out permanently. Not only that, Parcells said he wants no thugs, criminals or problem children. Well thats exactly what Ricky is, a problem child. Its time to cut ties with this guy.

Chatman - is a FA. Who knows if he will be back. He was good when he played, but again, its nowhere near definite he will be back.

Cobbs and Gado - Theres nothing to even say about these guys.

Booker - is as close to a sure thing as we have. This guy will have a nice future with Miami. No issues with this guy.

Parcells already cut 10 people and you know there will be more. He is building his foundation. If you want to move forward and improve, its out with the old and in with the new. Ive said it before and I'll say it again. Everyone wants this team to improve, yet they want to keep the same players. Sorry, it doesnt work that way. You improve by bringing in better players.

Now I ask again, how can anyone think this is a solid RB situation?

It doesn't matter if the RB situation is "solid", IMO. It's about paying a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick at one position that most of us have a hard time swallowing...

We know that Ronnie, when healthy, can carry the load.

Ricky, as unreliable as he is, is still a damn good RB. If he keeps his nose clean, and I think he will because he knows as well as any that this is his absolute last shot, he'll be a fine backup for Ronnie.

Chatman is a good backup. He wasn't so good coming out of the backfield on pass plays, but that, I suppose, is why he's just a backup right now. If he goes, I wish him luck, but no huge loss.

Gado showed flashes. Cobb had some promise early on, but just isn't showing it now.

Booker, I agree, is well worth keeping.

Brown, Williams, and Booker going into next season works for me. If we still want to pick up a RB, we can get one in later rounds.

IMO.

 

[phintim]

RB is no sure thing on this team but it is the closest thing we have of any position on this team along with LB.
We make the trade with Dallas but we get Spears and Carpender instead of Barber and their 1st 2 first rounders. We pick the best OT and QB in the 1st and instantly have the ingredents of a decent team. This will also allow us to pick a top CB in the top of the 2nd followed by a WR later in the 2nd with a very good TE at the top of the 3rd. All areas I mentioned are area of critical need next year for the Dolphins. DT, OT, CB, WR, QB and TE. Carpender who was being groomed as a ILB with Dallas last year is a gamble here but Parcells picked him and maybe he has promise and our Dallas/ Dolphin defensive coaches should also know. We need insurance next year behind Beck in case he does not blossom and a QB in the 1st gives us that. The other reason why this works is that it gives Dallas loads of cap releif to sign Mcfadden as the 1st overall pick which they will need as we pick up the 1st round salaries of Spears and Carpender in this deal.

 

[FINOMINAL]

You can not get a McFadden in the later rounds or in free agency. I take him. You can get a nose tackle later, a left tackle later, a quarterback later, wide receiver, tight end, a corner- basically everything this team needs can come with two second round picks, etc and free agency. Running back might be deep, but Ronnie is injured and might not be ready until mid season and never return full strength- could happen people. He looked great before the injury, but was it a fluke or is he really that good? Ricky wouldn’t be here if he wasn’t playing for the minimum. He has no value and will probably not even make it to next season without a relapse. The other RB’s are quite ordinary except for Booker, who will not be able to take a season long pounding. Maybe we need a running back? Maybe we never get the chance at a Darren McFadden again? I say McFadden, Booker, Brown sounds better.

 

[Roman529]

I see Miami's picks all over the place....

Some say Ryan. Some say move back. Some say Dorsey, some say Ellis.

I haven't seen any Miami Fans talking about drafting McFadden, at all.

No love for McFadden out East?

I don't think we could draft McFadden unless Ronnie Brown's injury was a career ender.

 

[fishypete]

The only reason why the Dolphins should select McFadden is to trade him later to the Boys....just too many very good running backs in this draft to use with the number pick for ANY running back.

The old Dolphins would have thought to select him...and thats why the Dolphins have been screwed up for so many years....lets hope we're past that thinking.

 

[Glacier]

Personally, I am not sold on McFadden at all.

I haven't had an opportunity to really watch all of Arkansas football games, snap by snap, but to me....

This is what I see when I see McFadden:

He has amazing straight line speed. He isn't a really fluid or beautiful runner. You won't be seeing him juke anyone or see any of the flashy spin moves that Adrian Peterson has in his arsenal. He tends to bounce things outside a little, simply because, I believe, more often than not, he was the fastest guy on the field. He won't be in the NFL.

To me, I see a one cut, runner that isn't very elegant, but was fast enough that he forced people to take bad angles on him, due to players misjudging his speed and how quickly he could accelerate to his top speed.

He has a great stiff arm. I think the ONE aspect of his game, that makes him special is, he seems to hit his top speed extremely quickly, which is what I believe, causes people to take bad angles on him. It may not even be that he is as fast as I believe him to be, more so, that he accelerates to his top speed very suddenly.

I like Jamaal Charles as the best pure runner, from a scat back perspective. he to me, has the best vision and is the most elusive of the elite RBs coming out. Even he has some serious warts on him, though - specifically, how he is fundamentally flawed in how he carries the ball.

As far as over all RBs go, Mendenhall seems to be a very complete, if not unspectacular RB. He kind of reminds me of Ahmad Green, before he got old.

 

[sceeto]

Personally, I am not sold on McFadden at all.

I haven't had an opportunity to really watch all of Arkansas football games, snap by snap, but to me....

This is what I see when I see McFadden:

He has amazing straight line speed. He isn't a really fluid or beautiful runner. You won't be seeing him juke anyone or see any of the flashy spin moves that Adrian Peterson has in his arsenal. He tends to bounce things outside a little, simply because, I believe, more often than not, he was the fastest guy on the field. He won't be in the NFL.

To me, I see a one cut, runner that isn't very elegant, but was fast enough that he forced people to take bad angles on him, due to players misjudging his speed and how quickly he could accelerate to his top speed.

He has a great stiff arm. I think the ONE aspect of his game, that makes him special is, he seems to hit his top speed extremely quickly, which is what I believe, causes people to take bad angles on him. It may not even be that he is as fast as I believe him to be, more so, that he accelerates to his top speed very suddenly.

I like Jamaal Charles as the best pure runner, from a scat back perspective. he to me, has the best vision and is the most elusive of the elite RBs coming out. Even he has some serious warts on him, though - specifically, how he is fundamentally flawed in how he carries the ball.

As far as over all RBs go, Mendenhall seems to be a very complete, if not unspectacular RB. He kind of reminds me of Ahmad Green, before he got old.

I agree in that I am not sold on DM being good in the NFL. The same way I felt about Reggie Bush. Mcfadden's legs our too skinny, he doesn't have the kind of power you need in the NFL and any great back in the NFL needs to be able to lower his shoulder and run over somebody at some point, which I don't think he can do. Even Barry Sanders, though small and known for his quick, fast, shifty moves, would still smash someone when he had to. Go defense with the 1st overall.