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jim1 said:
My personal view is that there isn't enough attention being given to the opportunity cost, and risk, that signing Matt Flyyn represents. Is he actually better than Matt Moore- we know that from one game? And that one meaningless end of the season game is worth tens of millions of dollars that could pehaps be better spent signing top talent at other positions- OLB, WR, OL, etc.?


I think that there's merit to the notion that Philbin will know best on this one and act accordingly. But there were reasons why Flynn lasted until the 7th round- Matt Cassell is a decent QB and former 7th rd pick as well, but I wouldn't want to trade a 2nd rd pick and pay him tens of millions of dollars as KC did for the QB that he is now- in Flynns case specifically, I wouldn't want to pay the money for such a questionable commodiity, money that could imo be better spent elsewhere.

As things stand now I'd rather have Matt Moore and the money than Matt Flynn- and more importantly to me, I want Brandon Weeden. I'd take Moore, Weeden and the money saved on not signing Flynn over signing Flynn- in a heartbeat.


1. David DeCastro
2. Brandon Weeden
3. Joe Adams
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i think you answered your own question, no1 is screaming for flynn based on his 2 good game showings.. atleast not from dolphin nation... people want him because our coach might love him.

i think whether he's a lot better then moore or about the same skill level is irrelevant. if 2 guys have the same skill set but one knows the job better by about 4 years worth of experience, who do you go with? flynns price is higher because of his two games, not because were so siked about them, but because other teams are driving up the price. that being said.... who's to say he wouldn't give us a sort of "hometown"discount so to say because of philbin? ireland has been good with the contracts the last 2 years.

on the notion of where he was drafted, i don't see the relevance at this point, 4 years later. matt moore was undrafted, so according to that logic matt flynn is better? doesn't make sense. go by where these guys are as of today.

and although we obviously don't want to judge flynn on that game, you cant say that matt moore has ever thrown 6 touchdowns or 500 yards in a game, against ANY team. and dont forget he did play worse secondaries this year then the lions. he also played in plenty of "meaningless games." and i'd also say just because the lions dont have a great secondary doesn't mean you get to take away from a mean dline
 
Let's keep playing it safe, stick to mediocrity, occasionally back our way into the playoffs a la 2008. Sounds fantastic.
 
He's an average QB who will get us to 8-8 or 9-7 if that. You know our QB situation is bad when people want Matt Moore to start.
 
ahmilli said:
0-7 without him
6-3 with him.
6-3 isnt bad imo!
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By that logic, we should have stuck with Jay Fiedler. Matt Moore is a career back up (a damn good one) and a transitional starter. Nothing more. That **** doesn't fly in today's NFL.
 
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Miamifinz said:
I really feel 9-7 is our ceiling with Matt Moore. Incredibly average quarterback. He should be the solid backup to the QB we sign in FA or the draft.
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MOORE was rated the 12th best QB in the NFL last season. That's not--repeat NOT--a back-up QB. Also, last season, MIAMI was very highly rated for pass completions over 20 Yards. When was the last time we saw something like THAT? Your post, like so many in this site, is absurd.
 
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luduporcu said:
MOORE was rated the 12th best QB in the NFL last season. That's not--repeat NOT--a back-up QB. Also, last season, MIAMI was very highly rated for pass completions over 20 Yards. When was the last time we saw something like THAT? Your post, like so many in this site, is absurd.
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Yes but how many good teams did he beat?
 
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I'm fine with Moore if the best we could do otherwise is Weeden or Osweiler. We have holes to fill and depth to recruit. If Luck, RG3, and Tannehill are gone we could load up on O Line, D line, TE, and DB this year. There are 3-4 genuine QB talents in next years draft that we could go after.
 
1Dolfan said:
Am I the only one who wouldn't be upset if we leave Matt moore as the starter for next year and stack the team around him. Sign Players like Mario Williams, Reggie Nelson, draft offensively, and would still probably have a little left over money for another decent sign.

I'm jus saying its not the worst thing in the world. If we sign a player like Flynn n he doesn't work out, it would really set us back.
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Nope.. He's a much better QB than what we have had around here. He DOES need good competition though.
 
Moore is a solid starter and very serviceable, but if we're talking about playoff football in Miami, he won't be my choice.
 
We get a RT, a #2 WR.
Moore COULD be great, just build around him?
I'm not saying don't get Flynn, or Tannehill,
Make them fight for the starting job.

Look at what San Fran did, they built around him and a good D
Made Alex look decent. And imo Moore is way better than Alex.
We have a good D and we could draft Reiff as a RT or get a F/A like Grubbs, get a #2 WR, Moore could become a very good QB.
 
ahmilli said:
We get a RT, a #2 WR.
Moore COULD be great, just build around him?
I'm not saying don't get Flynn, or Tannehill,
Make them fight for the starting job.

Look at what San Fran did, they built around him and a good D
Made Alex look decent. And imo Moore is way better than Alex.
We have a good D and we could draft Reiff as a RT or get a F/A like Grubbs, get a #2 WR, Moore could become a very good QB.
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No he couldn't, but he's a damn good back up and transitional starter to keep around while grooming a rookie. If we're lucky, we'll get somebody to bite on the possibility of him their full time starter and get some good trade value out of it.

And I love that everybody keeps bringing up San Fran as if they won't look to upgrade the QB position as soon as they can. It's about as good an argument as bringing up Brady as a reason stick to drafting QB's in the 6th round.

The minute SF gets a real QB, they're immediate Super Bowl Contenders.
 
ahmilli said:
They lost because of them fumbles, not Alex, they would've been in the Super Bowl. Am I right?

BUT Moore is better than Alex? lol
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I put him on par with Alex. He can manage a game and he'll win us some games and may even manage to get us into the playoffs like Fiedler did, but that's it. He'll never make it to a Super Bowl, let alone win one; not as the starter for the entire season anyways.

Not sure why people want to continue to settle for mediocre QBs and "build around them." Shows a lack of understanding of the modern NFL.
 
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