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What are you: Team Martin or Team Incognito

Which team do you side with?

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everyone involved here looks terrible

incognito looks like a psycho racist
martin looks like a whiny baby who went off tattling
dolphins coaches look stupid for ignoring the obvious and for most likely encouraging the others to "toughen" up martin
nfl because goodell tries so hard to "protect the shield"
 
I guess by default you can say I'm on Team Incognito, but I don't feel I'm necessarily on any team. I'm on the team for fairness, however that shakes out. and to me, right now I don't think Ritchie is getting a fair deal. He lost his job, for gods sake. I also think the Dolphin organization didn't get a fair deal. They have a contract and Martin broke it, plus caused them to lose another player. I also don't like the fact that there's money and lawyers involved.

If Martin had a problem and felt he was being mistreated, but still wanted to play football, and went to coaches and other players for help, and THAT didn't work, then I can see him walking out, if it was that intolerable. But he didn't take reasonable steps. And at this point, all it leaves us with is speculation. Rationale for Martin could be any number of things, including money, vindictiveness, lack of desire to play football, or mental illness. We just don't know.

Maybe more evidence will come out, and we'll be on Martin's side, but from day one I haven't seen any justification for his actions, and still don't, so I have to go on that.
 
J. David Wannyheimer said:
No... it can't be... it can't be about the money. There's no way it can be about the money, because that would frame the story in terms of the 30% against the 70% or some other numbers!
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This is like the breakup of a bad relationship. All that's left that you care about is the money, the lawyers get involved, the other person's transgressions get blown up to epic proportions, and the friends have to pick a side.
 
They already have a parody account about john martin on twitter, needless to say most people are team Incog
 
I chose neutral (as I have throughout this entire ordeal) however I find it telling that every single player that has been interviewed has sided with RI and in supporting the team means supporting the players which means supporting their overall decisions.

I still do not agree with the message RI left though. Joking or not and that bar video of him still makes him look like a douchebag
 
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It's not about money. Martin already comes from a wealthy family, this is not about making money.
We have a smart young guy with possible mental health concerns who has been harassed by a "team leader" who delights in bullying.
 
im on team get both these bums of my dolphins n lets resign some other lineman n move the f on n put the focus back on our football team. Right now no one is talkin about how the miami dolphins just came off a huge win and are right back in the playoffhunt. we are talkin about this incog garbage that has ruined the dolphins reputation as a classy organization.
 
spiketex said:
It's not about money. Martin already comes from a wealthy family, this is not about making money.
We have a smart young guy with possible mental health concerns who has been harassed by a "team leader" who delights in bullying.
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To the contrary, IMO an either gullible or conspiratorial Martin is having his strings pulled by blood-thirsty lawyers who are less concerned about what Martin will be netting from a suit if it went to court than the deep pockets into which the NFL will agree to reach on an sealed out-of-court settlement to preempt the risk of losing a case, establishing another legal precedent for past claimants who suddenly remember the natural clubhouse hazing as extraordinary and future marginal rookies and other players to come.

IMO it's a form of extortion since you can bet your bottom dollar that the NFL doesn't want to open another legal concussion-like Pandora's Box. Of course an alternative theory is to hit all the PC hot buttons, try to win the case, set legal precedent and then organize a massive class action suit :idk:

At this point it's hard not give credence to a wide variety of white, black and bi-racial players who have given Incog the thumbs up vs anyone who is sitting at a newsdesk, studio, computer or lazy boy near or far who'd rather demonize Richie cause it's easy to do and ditto make Martin into the innocent victim - which he surely isn't. The dramatic way Martin was instructed to storm out theatrically in a hissy fit for maximum media coverage after playing the same prank on others as well as many worse smacks of pre-planned dramatic staging.

 
Guys, have you all lost your mind......?

All of this should be non news and I'm being serious.

It's absolutely insane that people outside of football, whom have never been in a football locker room really view this as a "true" bullying case.

It is not....!

I do not know either player, but based on the facts, both of Martin's parents are graduates of Harvard, probably lawyers, and the Dolphins will probably be sued over a non-issue.

Jonathan Martin does not have the mental capacity to play in the NFL and is not emotional mature to handle the sheer brutality of the sport and he's now trying to blame Richie Incognito for losing it emotionally for leaving? Look the NFL is not for everyone, let Jonathan Martin walk.

The NFL is now being emasculated into a a flag football league and it sickens me.

Imagine if today Jimmy Johnson said, hey the asthma field is over there and cutting a player right there on the spot today.

Back in 1950, more than 80 percent of all men in the United States had jobs. Today, less than 65 percent of all men in the United States have jobs.

The United States has the highest incarceration rate on the entire globe by a very wide margin. Overall, the U.S. has approximately 25 percent of the entire global prison population even though it only has 5 percent of the total global population. Men make up the vast majority of those that we are holding in our prisons. Is this not hard to believe?

According to the Pew Research Center, only 51 percent of all American adults are currently married. Back in 1960, 72 percent of all adults in the United States were married.

Players suing the league....?

In the old days, the NFL was simply a part time job, now its become a over-paid full time job with whinny cry babies like Martin?

Give me a break! But, what the hell is going on with our society?
 
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