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OL guys with short arms: Is there a technique that can be learned to help minimize this?
Strength: This seems like it can be improved, maybe a fair amount.
IQ: Some guys may not be smart, but with enough film review and on field snaps, this seems like it can be improved.
Speed: maybe quickness and that first step can be improved at least a little. But not speed i. e. RBs, WRs.
What else can or cannot be improved?
 
There are guys that are successful playing tackle with are considered short arms. They can get stronger and with good technique they can lift guys arm up and drive them away, they can pull defenders into their chest and control them. There are some "tricks" so to speak to compensate.
 
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Strength and technique are more important than arm length. Honestly arm length matters more for a defender than a O-linemen, the burden is on the defender to beat the linemen. The linemen has the advantage of knowing where the play is going and what in space needs to be done, the defense is reacting to the play, plus you can scheme defenders out of the play entirely.
 
NY8123 said:
Strength and technique are more important than arm length. Honestly arm length matters more for a defender than a O-linemen, the burden is on the defender to beat the linemen. The linemen has the advantage of knowing where the play is going and what in space needs to be done, the defense is reacting to the play, plus you can scheme defenders out of the play entirely.
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Good point about knowing where the play is going
 
allsilverdreams said:
Can't fix stupid
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I see a law suit coming.
 
djphinfan said:
Every player can improve every element to a degree..it’s a matter if are they willing to put in the work
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True, but unfortunately some players just will never be good enough no matter how much work they put into it.
Only 3-4% of high school players end up playing college football and less than 2% of college football players even get a chance to play in the NFL.

Eventually the Peter Principle catches up to over 99% of young boys who dream of one day of playing in the NFL.
 
Jssanto said:
OL guys with short arms: Is there a technique that can be learned to help minimize this?
Strength: This seems like it can be improved, maybe a fair amount.
IQ: Some guys may not be smart, but with enough film review and on field snaps, this seems like it can be improved.
Speed: maybe quickness and that first step can be improved at least a little. But not speed i. e. RBs, WRs.
What else can or cannot be improved?
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The good news . . . there are guys who made a career in the NFL based, almost solely, on good technique.
That means, yes, players can be coached up, but, they need a minimum skill set/attributes and a commitment to devote every minute to improving.
Two points. 1) almost all attributes can be improved. Unfortunately, just a little. Quickness can be improved, but not by much. 2) Mental quickness/diagnosis is very hard to improve, if at all. Take Pat white. Although some may disagree, he had the physical skills to stick - maybe not as a starter, but stick. His weakness was the mental part. Anyone who watched his few NFL snaps saw a guy who looked mentally unprepared to be on the field and unable to respond to NFL quickness. No amount of training could improve that
 
1972forever said:
True, but unfortunately some players just will never be good enough no matter how much work they put into it.
Only 3-4% of high school players end up playing college football and less than 2% of college football players even get a chance to play in the NFL.

Eventually the Peter Principle catches up to over 99% of young boys who dream of one day of playing in the NFL.
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Of course
 
A little off topic, but pocket presence is something that seems instinctual/innate to me.

Ryan Tannehill always had nice skills to work with, but took unnecessary sacks. Specifically, he struggles with backside pressure. Over the years, I think his internal clock helped him some, but pocket presence is still his weakness.

I mention that partly because I'm hearing this narrative that the Jets have gained on the division. Jets fans should be excited about their draft, but Zach Wilson is the key for NYJ making any gains.

I see him struggling with backside pressure and wonder if that will ultimately keep him from reaching his ceiling. Those are plays that lead to strips and fumbles. Game changers on defense.
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
A little off topic, but pocket presence is something that seems instinctual/innate to me.

Ryan Tannehill always had nice skills to work with, but took unnecessary sacks. Specifically, he struggles with backside pressure. Over the years, I think his internal clock helped him some, but pocket presence is still his weakness.

I mention that partly because I'm hearing this narrative that the Jets have gained on the division. Jets fans should be excited about their draft, but Zach Wilson is the key for NYJ making any gains.

I see him struggling with backside pressure and wonder if that will ultimately keep him from reaching his ceiling. Those are plays that lead to strips and fumbles. Game changers on defense.
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Similar to this, I would add processing speed. Obviously anybody can get faster with more reps, but there seems to be a cap on some people. Some people are never going to be able to think fast enough.
 
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