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What do you think Camarillo would net us in a trade, if at all?

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Its interesting because when MIA drafted Turner and Hartline it seemed that they saw Camarillo as a stop gap at possession receiver. Now, Camarillo has shown to be a VERY clutch player and is good enough to be a starter at #2 or at least a clutch #3 or #4 receiver.

The fact that MIA seems to be grooming Hartline to replace Camarillo as the starter and Turner not being cut and worked on, could Ireland be willing to dangle Camarillo in the offseason to see if he could net us another Welker type deal? No. No. I'm not saying Camarillo is going to bait a team to cough up a 2nd and a 5th like the Pats did with Welker, but can he net us another 4th round pick, if Hartline and Turner are in MIA's plans?

And if not, does anyone think Bess could?

I mean, MIA has to let go of one of these guys to make room for Turner (if he is still in their plans, which he may still be).

Now this has absolutely nothing to do with whether they will trade Ginn or not. Because Ginn plays the other side. Ginn will either be kept as the backup speedster or traded to help us get that starting speedster and open up a roster spot for the backup speedster/KR/PR.

So the Ginn fiasco is the "other side".

Right now, I'm looking at what is this organization planning to do with the possession guys, which they have 4 of them, and this team basically needs, at most, 3 of them.
 
4th is a reach I think...unless we call the Raiders who may give us a 2nd...lol...realistically id say a 5th rounder.
 
4th is a reach I think...unless we call the Raiders who may give us a 2nd...lol...realistically id say a 5th rounder.

And how bout Bess? Being that he is a bit quicker to play that slot perfectly.
 
LOL @ "trading" Ginn...

NO ONE will trade for Ginn. He will be cut or still on the team.
 
Bess could probably get you a 4th, but he's worth far more than that to us and we'd be absolutely nuts to trade him.

Cam is expendable (unfortunately) due to how quickly Hartline is developing. But he probably won't fetch more than a 5th. So we probably keep him as long as we can. If we end up trading for a #1 receiver, I have to think he'd be part of that deal. Possibly both he and Ginn.

Ginn will be replaced for sure, but it won't be because we got good value in a trade. Parcells has to vomit up his Cheerios every time he watches this guy play.
 
Its interesting because when MIA drafted Turner and Hartline it seemed that they saw Camarillo as a stop gap at possession receiver. Now, Camarillo has shown to be a VERY clutch player and is good enough to be a starter at #2 or at least a clutch #3 or #4 receiver.

The fact that MIA seems to be grooming Hartline to replace Camarillo as the starter and Turner not being cut and worked on, could Ireland be willing to dangle Camarillo in the offseason to see if he could net us another Welker type deal? No. No. I'm not saying Camarillo is going to bait a team to cough up a 2nd and a 5th like the Pats did with Welker, but can he net us another 4th round pick, if Hartline and Turner are in MIA's plans?

And if not, does anyone think Bess could?

I mean, MIA has to let go of one of these guys to make room for Turner (if he is still in their plans, which he may still be).

Now this has absolutely nothing to do with whether they will trade Ginn or not. Because Ginn plays the other side. Ginn will either be kept as the backup speedster or traded to help us get that starting speedster and open up a roster spot for the backup speedster/KR/PR.

So the Ginn fiasco is the "other side".

Right now, I'm looking at what is this organization planning to do with the possession guys, which they have 4 of them, and this team basically needs, at most, 3 of them.

Bess will be primarily a slot receiver next year. It's what he does best. As for Cam and Hartline, I believe they will fight for the #2 spot as long as we go get a better #1. The guy who loses out will become our #4 WR. Ginn should be gone, but if he's not, he will be our #5. Turner hasn't done anything to prove he deserves to supplant any of the previous 5 listed (I'm sure he's a better WR than Ginn, he just doesn't do anything on ST that makes him rosterable).

If he comes out in training camp next year and supplants one of the 4 the guys above, that's great. My guess is Cam would be gone in that situation considering Hartline has done a better job with explosive plays this year.
 
Camarillo is worth way more to us than a 4th, 5th or 6th could be. The guy is (in my eyes) our most reliable receiver even over Bess (who no doubt is speedier/shiftier). Cut Ginn (or see if you can get a low round pick for him) and draft a playmaker to go along with Bess, Camarillo, and Hartline.

I could see Turner gone if he doesn't improve substantially by training camp. The FO doesn't care where you were drafted, the best guys get on the field, and if he can't find the field when we can get undrafted guys that can, he's outta here.
 
Its interesting because when MIA drafted Turner and Hartline it seemed that they saw Camarillo as a stop gap at possession receiver. Now, Camarillo has shown to be a VERY clutch player and is good enough to be a starter at #2 or at least a clutch #3 or #4 receiver.

The fact that MIA seems to be grooming Hartline to replace Camarillo as the starter and Turner not being cut and worked on, could Ireland be willing to dangle Camarillo in the offseason to see if he could net us another Welker type deal? No. No. I'm not saying Camarillo is going to bait a team to cough up a 2nd and a 5th like the Pats did with Welker, but can he net us another 4th round pick, if Hartline and Turner are in MIA's plans?

And if not, does anyone think Bess could?

I mean, MIA has to let go of one of these guys to make room for Turner (if he is still in their plans, which he may still be).

Now this has absolutely nothing to do with whether they will trade Ginn or not. Because Ginn plays the other side. Ginn will either be kept as the backup speedster or traded to help us get that starting speedster and open up a roster spot for the backup speedster/KR/PR.

So the Ginn fiasco is the "other side".

Right now, I'm looking at what is this organization planning to do with the possession guys, which they have 4 of them, and this team basically needs, at most, 3 of them.


we actually got a 2nd and a 7th from the pats for welker. not a 2nd and 5th.
 
I say keep them all. But I do have a question. Everyone says Turner isn't on our game time roster because he has great hands and descent speed but he cant run routes...... Well doesn't that sound just like a guy the cheaters have by the name of Randy Moss. He seems to do pretty well for himself I say put him in and suprise everyone. Give him a shot. Sometimes that is all people need someone to take a chance. what you think?
 
And how bout Bess? Being that he is a bit quicker to play that slot perfectly.

Trading Bess for anything less than a 2nd & 3rd rounder is crazy and I don't think that would make us better as a team anyway. I wouldn't trade Bess period.
 
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