What Does No Cap In 2010 Mean To Us?

[So Be]

Many target 2010 as when we will be legit Super Bowl contenders. How does no cap come into play.

Will Ross want to spend a ton of money to try and buy a title? Will Tuna agree? How would that affect our future?

Could we re-do some contracts to absorb guaranteed money cap hits, and free that money for the future?

I've read a fair amount on this but, it is still somewhat confusing.

Thoughts?

Side note- Will Snyder and Crazy Al buy all the top FA for much more than makes any degree of sense? LOL

 

[greasyObnoxious]

i think we will extend all of our own FAs and focus on the draft, just like we have done the past two off-seasons. if possible, we will roll all the bonus money onto 2010. that's what i think.

 

[So Be]

i think we will extend all of our own FAs and focus on the draft, just like we have done the past two off-seasons. if possible, we will roll all the bonus money onto 2010. that's what i think.

I tend to agree that we do pretty much of the same, and take advantage of the opportunity to free up future cap space.

I can also see us taking a shot at a high priced FA or two, to push us over the top. Wilfork would be my choice. Imagine him in the middle of our DL.

 

[Cobra84]

Its not really uncapped. There are so many restrictions that the only significant difference will be that under performing players with large signing bonuses can be cut with no downside.

There will be 1 franchise tag, 2 transition tags, and anyone and with less than 6 years in the league will be restricted free agents, greatly limiteing the number of good FAs.

 

[GeauxFinns3705]

Many target 2010 as when we will be legit Super Bowl contenders. How does no cap come into play.

Will Ross want to spend a ton of money to try and buy a title? Will Tuna agree? How would that affect our future?

Could we re-do some contracts to absorb guaranteed money cap hits, and free that money for the future?

I've read a fair amount on this but, it is still somewhat confusing.

Thoughts?

Side note- Will Snyder and Crazy Al buy all the top FA for much more than makes any degree of sense? LOL

I dont think there is going to be a season if there is no cap, so our situation is going to be irrelevant.

The owners want a rookie cap and to lower the pct of money that goes to payrolls...the NFLPA will probably go along with that, provided the owners give up the "Franchise Tag" option.

This HAS to get done. It will make a strong league even stronger.

 

[greasyObnoxious]

I tend to agree that we do pretty much of the same, and take advantage of the opportunity to free up future cap space.

I can also see us taking a shot at a high priced FA or two, to push us over the top. Wilfork would be my choice. Imagine him in the middle of our DL.

with Seymour now in Oakland, you can pretty much bank on a Wilfork extension IMO

 

[So Be]

Its not really uncapped. There are so many restrictions that the only significant difference will be that under performing players with large signing bonuses can be cut with no downside.

There will be 1 franchise tag, 2 transition tags, and anyone and with less than 6 years in the league will be restricted free agents, greatly limiteing the number of good FAs.

You lost me there. Can't teams pay whatever they want for FA's and their own players?

 

[So Be]

with Seymour now in Oakland, you can pretty much bank on a Wilfork extension IMO

I hope not. He is one player I really want to come home to Miami. A friend of his told me that he would very much like to.

 

[So Be]

I dont think there is going to be a season if there is no cap, so our situation is going to be irrelevant.

The owners want a rookie cap and to lower the pct of money that goes to payrolls...the NFLPA will probably go along with that, provided the owners give up the "Franchise Tag" option.

This HAS to get done. It will make a strong league even stronger.

There will be a season with no cap. The owners can do nothing, in way of a lock out, until 2011.

 

[TheJetsBlow]

I hope not. He is one player I really want to come home to Miami. A friend of his told me that he would very much like to.

Hey man, I'd love to add Wilfork too, but you just know he'll re-sign with those a-holes. That's part of why they traded Seymour- to free up cash for Wilfork.

 

[Cobra84]

You lost me there. Can't teams pay whatever they want for FA's and their own players?

No. There are a ton of limits what can be done in the "uncapped" year. No cap doesn't mean no rules. Most players won't be free agents, top 8 teams are heavily restricted in free agency, and a few other things keep it from being a Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones spending free for all.

 

[Bonedoc7777]

no cap hurts the players most, six years before FA, franchise and transitional player tags, teams that make the playoffs cant sign a guy unless you lose one, and no salary floor for the cheap teams, the owners might actually like the new system better

 

[Rhody Phins Fan]

The top 8 teams face heavy restrictions and I see Miami finishing somewhere between the 9th and 14th best team so we would be in a good position to make a splash if we wanted to.

 

[So Be]

No. There are a ton of limits what can be done in the "uncapped" year. No cap doesn't mean no rules. Most players won't be free agents, top 8 teams are heavily restricted in free agency, and a few other things keep it from being a Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones spending free for all.

Could you give us a run down, or better yet, a link?

 

[chris66]

CBA Q&A
Posted by Mike Florio on May 31, 2008, 8:47 a.m. EDT

A key component of the coming labor crisis between the NFL and its players union is the battle for the hearts and minds of the general public. With football fans possibly poised to throttle the golden goose due to the perception that this entire dispute arises from rich guys on both sides of the issue arguing over who’s getting richer the fastest, any gesture of sensitivity to the fog of confusion regarding the matters at issue can’t hurt the side that helps us all understand what’s going on.

And so on Friday the league wisely issued a Q&A document regarding the CBA. Here are some of the highlights (some of which we’ve mentioned here in various different postings):

1. The current CBA is in effect through the 2011 draft.

2. There will be no salary cap in 2010, but there will be additional restrictions on free agency, including the requirement that players have six years of service to become unrestricted free agents, not four, and limitations on the ability of the “final eight” teams from 2009 to sign new players at will.

3. In the uncapped year, player benefits likely will decline. The union agreed that in the uncapped year, clubs would be relieved of their obligation to fund numerous benefit programs, such as the 401K, player annuity, severance pay, and tuition assistance. The total league-wide contributions to such plans in 2009, the last capped year, are expected to be in excess of $225 million, or more than $7 million per club.

4. There might be a rookie pool in the uncapped year; the CBA gives the league the right to use one, if it so chooses.

5. In the uncapped year, there is no salary cap and no salary floor, meaning that teams can spend as much — and as little — as they want on players.

6. After the last game of the 2008 regular season, maximum signing bonus proration reduces from six years to five. (Last time around, the maximum proration entering the final capped season was four.)

7. In 2009, there is no June 1 rule. If a player is removed from the roster or his contract is assigned via waivers or trade at any time in the 2009 League Year, all remaining future signing bonus money will hit the 2009 salary cap.

8. In 2009, not-likely-to-be-earned incentives will hit the salary cap when earned, and won’t be pushed into 2010, the uncapped year.

9. In 2009, likely-to-be-earned incentives will be deducted from the team’s salary cap when they are no longer possible to earn. (This will be the subject of a separate item here regarding the 30-percent rule.)

10. Guaranteed salary from 2010 and beyond will be reallocated to capped years unless the entire 2009 salary is guaranteed.

11. Half of all guaranteed salary beyond 2012 will be reallocated to capped years. (We’ll be writing more about this one, too.)

12. The 30-percent rule restricts salary increases from 2009 to 2010. If a player has a $1 million salary in 2009, his maximum increase for 2010 will be $300,000.

13. A team can include only three veteran team incentives in a player contract covering 2009 and beyond. These incentives must also be coupled with a playtime requirement. Previously, clubs were limited to eight team incentives and no playtime requirement.

Bottom line? The uncapped year won’t be the wild-west spending spree that players might anticipate it to be. For players whose contracts expire after 2009, the cash for most of them won’t be flowing freely. And given the 30 percent rule, a player under contract who thinks that he can threaten to hold out for more money in the uncapped year because the team can’t hide behind the salary cap as a reason to give it to him will nevertheless be limited to a 30-percent raise over whatever he made in 2009.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/05/31/cba-qa/