what Dolphins fans seem to want

[Aquapride]

At least at this forum I see much commentary about "opening up the passing game" and, or, having the receivers run deep routes. But this years Dolphins did not win 8 of their last 9 games with a showboat passing game. The team won because they played good effective defense and were able to control the ball by consistently producing short to mid range running and passing plays.
The teams which went deep into the playoffs this year did the same thing.
Hopefully the Dolphins new coach and his staff will not try to throw long balls all day long like many fans seem to want. The team Flores and his staff put out there was pretty good this season so any sort of tear down or rebuild would likely be counterproductive.

 

[royalshank]

As I said, the bills - chiefs game was an outlier

 

[dreamblk]

The teams that are in the Superbowl are there not just because of their QBs but because of great team play. Warning to Dolphin fans it's not just about the QB.

Cincy great special teams kicker solid secondary star RB star stud WR solid OC
Rams great Defense front four and secondary two-star Stud WRs solid OC

Both Cincy and Rams are in the Superbowl because of great team play and coaching, but where are Josh Allen and Mahomes?

 

[fansinceGWilson]

At least at this forum I see much commentary about "opening up the passing game" and, or, having the receivers run deep routes. But this years Dolphins did not win 8 of their last 9 games with a showboat passing game. The team won because they played good effective defense and were able to control the ball by consistently producing short to mid range running and passing plays.
The teams which went deep into the playoffs this year did the same thing.
Hopefully the Dolphins new coach and his staff will not try to throw long balls all day long like many fans seem to want. The team Flores and his staff put out there was pretty good this season so any sort of tear down or rebuild would likely be counterproductive.

Not going to disagree, but problem #1 for Miami's WRs was lack of separation. Anyone who watched playoff games saw BUF, KC, TB receivers consistently open by 5 yards. MUCH easier to hit intermediate passes. But, intermediate passes take longer than Miami QBs were given by the OL.
I think all here agree Miami needs an effective passing (and running) game, and all will agree on the need for more deep passes. I DON'T think many here want a lot of deep passes. Enough to keep the D honest and to make drives faster (fewer plays). I agree the Flo D was good enough to win. It was the O where he failed and failed miserably.

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

The teams that are in the Superbowl are there not just because of their QBs but because of great team play. Warning to Dolphin fans it's not just about the QB.

Cincy great special teams kicker solid secondary star RB star stud WR solid OC
Rams great Defense front four and secondary two-star Stud WRs solid OC

Both Cincy and Rams are in the Superbowl because of great team play and coaching, but where are Josh Allen and Mahomes?

I dunno, but Burrow who is right up there with the best and Stafford who is criminally underrated are there.

 

[Marino2.0]

It’s not about long passes. It’s about consistently passing the ball more than 6 yards downfield. And it’s about getting offensive personnel that don’t suck.

We played Hollins/Wilson/Williams/Ford over 1000 combined WR snaps this season. 1000 snaps is basically every snap of the season. We played Durham Smythe and Cethan Carter a combined 750+ snaps.

We essentially had one waiver wire quality WR, one waiver wire quality TE, and one waiver wire quality RB on the field on every play this season. That was paired with the worst offensive line in football. The offense does in fact need a complete tear down and rebuild.

 

[SF Dolphin Fan]

I would love a running game like San Francisco's. That would complement the defense and likely be a perfect fit for Tua.

The fact that Cincinnati is in the super bowl should make Miami fans optimistic. Get to the playoffs and anything is possible. I'm not convinced that the Bengals are much better than the Dolphins.

Time to draft skill talent, though.

 

[E30M3]

It’s not about long passes. It’s about consistently passing the ball more than 6 yards downfield. And it’s about getting offensive personnel that don’t suck.

We played Hollins/Wilson/Williams/Ford over 1000 combined WR snaps this season. 1000 snaps is basically every snap of the season. We played Durham Smythe and Cethan Carter a combined 750+ snaps.

We essentially had one waiver wire quality WR, one waiver wire quality TE, and one waiver wire quality RB on the field on every play this season. That was paired with the worst offensive line in football. The offense does in fact need a complete tear down and rebuild.

To be fair Fuller was supposed to be in that slot but they got bamboozled. If only some of these FA picks can hit it would be a different story. Lindsay was a good pickup and look how that changed some facets in the gameplay.

Little bit of skill little bit of luck, little bit of f*ck Will Fuller in his ear.

 

[AdamD13]

The teams that are in the Superbowl are there not just because of their QBs but because of great team play. Warning to Dolphin fans it's not just about the QB.

Cincy great special teams kicker solid secondary star RB star stud WR solid OC
Rams great Defense front four and secondary two-star Stud WRs solid OC

Both Cincy and Rams are in the Superbowl because of great team play and coaching, but where are Josh Allen and Mahomes?

Cincy has two stud WRs as well.

 

[EJay]

The teams that are in the Superbowl are there not just because of their QBs but because of great team play. Warning to Dolphin fans it's not just about the QB.

Cincy great special teams kicker solid secondary star RB star stud WR solid OC
Rams great Defense front four and secondary two-star Stud WRs solid OC

Both Cincy and Rams are in the Superbowl because of great team play and coaching, but where are Josh Allen and Mahomes?

And a lot of good fortune and luck. Don’t forget about that.

IDK how anybody could have watched that game yesterday and came away from it actually believing CIN was a better team than KC.

The Chiefs did everything they possibly could to give it away. The meltdown began by not scoring a point from the 1 just before haftime.

Great for the Bengals, but no chance they are better than KC. But Andy Reid teams gonna do what they do from time to time, which is lose to inferior opponents.

KC shouldn‘t have lost to NE in the AFC title game in 2019 (thank Dee Ford for jumping offside)
KC shouldn’t have lost to TB in the SB in 2021 and shouldn’t have lost to CIN yesterday.

To only come away with one SB title the past 4 seasons is a vast underachievement and disappointment considering the all the talent and the QB.

The Niners overachieved the entire 2nd half of the season, but still should have beaten the Rams for the 3rd time yesterday. LA benefitted from another Kyle Shanahan 2nd half collapse.

 

[terphin]

And a lot of good fortune and luck. Don’t forget about that.

IDK how anybody could have watched that game yesterday and came away from it actually believing CIN was a better team than KC.

The Chiefs did everything they possibly could to give it away. The meltdown began by not scoring a point from the 1 just before haftime.

Great for the Bengals, but no chance they are better than KC. But Andy Reid teams gonna do what they do from time to time, which is lose to inferior opponents.

KC shouldn‘t have lost to NE in the AFC title game in 2019 (thank Dee Ford for jumping offside)
KC shouldn’t have lost to TB in the SB in 2021 and shouldn’t have lost to CIN yesterday.

To only come away with one SB title the past 4 seasons is a vast underachievement and disappointment considering the all the talent and the QB.

The Niners overachieved the entire 2nd half of the season, but still should have beaten the Rams for the 3rd time yesterday. LA benefitted from another Kyle Shanahan 2nd half collapse.

the Andy Reid special going back to the Eagle days, starting to get the Schottenheimer syndrome great regular seasons and **** in the playoffs

 

[Fin-Loco]

What we want is competence and to see a spike in it on offense while retaining it in defense. So many of us are so sick of having to frame up a specific case on how the Phins are somehow relevant in any way besides our recent defensive surge. We want a QB who is the star of Monday morning highlights and to feel like even if we're behind, allow need to do is whack the nitro button and we'll come soaring back.

 

[EJay]

the Andy Reid special going back to the Eagle days, starting to get the Schottenheimer syndrome great regular seasons and **** in the playoffs

Reid is very fortunate the officials didn’t call offensive holding (Nick Bosa was clearly held) on the long game changing play to Tyreek Hill in the SB otherwise he’d really be under fire.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love MIA to switch places with KC but if that happened we’d all be bitching about underachieving and not winning as much as we should.

KC was good enough to win the past 4 SB’s, but only reached 2 and only won 1 (luckily). That’s a crime.

The window of opportunity doesn’t stay open long.

 

[vcip]

Will take my chances building a dynamic offense over this game managing 25th rated stuff

 

[artdnj]

Not going to disagree, but problem #1 for Miami's WRs was lack of separation. Anyone who watched playoff games saw BUF, KC, TB receivers consistently open by 5 yards. MUCH easier to hit intermediate passes. But, intermediate passes take longer than Miami QBs were given by the OL.
I think all here agree Miami needs an effective passing (and running) game, and all will agree on the need for more deep passes. I DON'T think many here want a lot of deep passes. Enough to keep the D honest and to make drives faster (fewer plays). I agree the Flo D was good enough to win. It was the O where he failed and failed miserably.

CORRECT, we need an overhaul on our wr core, they are not good