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What if Miami does not really want Tua?

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I mean they don't HAVE to have him.

That would mean no trade up obviously, but can you imagine them passing on him at #5?

Trade down or take another player, possibly a different QB?

I heard back in the Fall that Miami really liked Herbert, likd him more than Tua, and that was before THE HIP.Herbert has all the measurables you want but has been inconsistent and there is worry that he is not a Type "A" leader of men guy.

I prefer Tua but I think Herbert is being underrated.

And that does not even take into consideration the tremendous potential of Jordan Love.If they are building then taking a kid who would not play for a year might make sense(this would apply to Tua as well).

Love is benefiting from his physical similarity to Mahomes and is probably being overrated for that reason.

All 3 present different risks in Round 1 so who are you most comfortable gambling on?
 
jimthefin said:
I mean they don't HAVE to have him.

That would mean no trade up obviously, but can you imagine them passing on him at #5?

Trade down or take another player, possibly a different QB?

I heard back in the Fall that Miami really liked Herbert, likd him more than Tua, and that was before THE HIP.Herbert has all the measurables you want but has been inconsistent and there is worry that he is not a Type "A" leader of men guy.

I prefer Tua but I think Herbert is being underrated.

And that does not even take into consideration the tremendous potential of Jordan Love.If they are building then taking a kid who would not play for a year might make sense(this would apply to Tua as well).

Love is benefiting from his physical similarity to Mahomes and is probably being overrated for that reason.

All 3 present different risks in Round 1 so who are you most comfortable gambling on?
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Not trying to be technical, but there are various flavors of 'want.' I'm guessing you mean 'don't want him at all.' That depends A LOT on the evaluation of injuries and, to date, I don't think there's near enough to exclude him. Or, they could prefer Herbert or someone else. Or take Tua, but at #5. A lot of people here expressing what they WANT Miami to do, but no one is predicting what Miami WILL do.

Now, if Miami REALLY doesn't want Tua, I suspect there IS a QB they like. Who the target is depends on what Miami will do. If it's herbert, likely stay at #5. If not, I suspect they'll listen to small trade down offers. If it's, say, Love, they'll have to move up from R2Pick2. The other obvious option is stay at #5 and take (I hope) a top D guy.
 
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fansinceGWilson said:
Not trying to be technical, but there are various flavors of 'want.' I'm guessing you mean 'don't want him at all.' That depends A LOT on the evaluation of injuries and, to date, I don't think there's near enough to exclude him. Or, they could prefer Herbert or someone else. Or take Tua, but at #5. A lot of people here expressing what they WANT Miami to do, but no one is predicting what Miami WILL do.

Now, if Miami REALLY doesn't want Tua, I suspect there IS a QB they like. Who the target is depends on what Miami will do. If it's herbert, likely stay at #5. If not, I suspect they'll listen to small trade down offers. If it's, say, Love, they'll have to move up from R2Pick2. The other obvious option is stay at #5 and take (I hope) a top D guy.
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If Tua is still there at 5, you have to think other teams will still want to trade up to pick before the Chargers and could offer an attractive package.
 
susser2000 said:
I don't think there is any chance they don't take Tua, if he's available. However, if they call the Redskins bluff and the Skins take him at 2, I hope they go BPA and then hope Love is available at 18 or draft Hurts in the second.
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I cant see the Skins passing on Chase Young, but if they take Tua, Detroit is going to have some hard decisions to keep or trade that pick at 3.
 
Phinatic, you'd make a great salesman!

After finding out that Tua hasn't finished an entire football season since high school, and he has a bad hip injury (and the stuff about his dad).....and after Andrew Luck left football at 28, I honestly think the love for Tua is a smokescreen. Unfortunately after his hip injury, I can almost guarantee so many NFL teams said "no thanks" and its sad because the guy had so much potential. But, that's life.

Also, we had some Alabama players here who aren't here anymore because they were "me me me" type of players. It might be an Alabama thing. If I was a GM, I would stay away from Alabama players lol.

So I don't think we are actually interested in him. I think Tua is going to fall drastically in the draft.

For all we know, the Bengals might not even care for Burrow. Do they NEED a QB? No, Dalton is 32. They need defense. Do the Redskins NEED a QB? No, they have Haskins. Lions? They have Stafford. Burrow might just fall to us, so the Dolphins would be smart to stay at #5.
 
I have no doubt Tua was their first choice going into the college football season. I would suspect right now they would pick Burrow over Tua if they had that decision. Since it appears Burrow is headed to the Bengals, the Dolphins won’t have that decision to make. I think the Dolphins will take Tua if he is there at 5 but I also hope they don’t trade up to draft him.
Tua has never played a complete season of football , even in high school without missing games because of injury. I don’t think Tua will hold up in the NFL and as great as he was at Alabama I won’t be surprised if he is out of the league within 3 years because of another injury to his hip.

I won’t be upset if they don’t draft Tua simply because of the injury risk with him but I don’t know how they really feel about drafting Herbert, Love or any other QB in the draft. As others have stated, the draft can’t get here soon enough so we can all learn exactly what the Dolphins thinking is concerning the future QB.
 
AMakados10 said:
Then Grier is fired because he's the worst GM in the NFL for trading a young pro bowl LT and very young ALL PRO safety for draft capital that didn't get used.
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Those trades were made before Tua had a second ankle surgery and then had major surgery on his hip. While I can accept them using one first round draft pick on Tua at 5, I think he should be fired if he trades multiple draft picks to move up and draft an injury prone QB.
If it was being reported that Grier was interested in drafting a player with the teams first draft pick who had surgery on both of his ankles, a knee injury and major surgery on his hip all in the last 2 years, Dolphin fans would be calling for him to be fired if he drafted that player at 5 or traded up to draft him. It is only because the player is Tua that so many fans are willing to overlook all those injuries.

‘As I stated, Tua at 5 I can live with because it is only one draft pick and if it doesn’t work out because his body doesn’t hold up in the NFL, at least the Dolphins will have all their other picks to improve the team.
 
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