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What Key data do we need about Smith, Chase

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Or other draft targets?
40 time, strength in bench press reps, shuttle drill, vertical, etc?
What if D Smith is weak AF? What if Chase isnt fast on paper?
Etc etc etc...
 
ChitownPhins28 said:
Well, then Chase gets knocked down a peg, as his reluctance to block or play hard when he's not targeted hurts.
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Not only that and I get it “Covid-Wise.” But he had big questions coming into a season without Burrow and the OC. Questions such as how much of it was him vs them? Smith had similiar questions? One decided to opt-out with those questions left unknown. While the other laced them up and went out and won the Heisman. Further, I’m of the believe if he didn’t have the finger injury he would have also played in the Senior bowl.

I know what player I’m willing to take a chance on.
 
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40 time
3-Cone drill

Those 2 numbers, for me, would tell the tale.

I want to see if Smith is getting separation due to disciplined routes, speed or agility. And compare that to Chase’s numbers
 
Data are for amateur. You either can play or can't play.
Clayton, Rice, Irvin will all do bad in today's combine.
Numbers are for scouts who don't know how to look at tapes and make decisions base on numbers.
If you make decesion base on numbers, my grandma can make the selections.
 
We know that Devonta Smith is an extremely high character guy with a great work ethic. However, I'd like to know a lot more about Chase.
 
Dan13Forever said:
Data are for amateur. You either can play or can't play.
Clayton, Rice, Irvin will all do bad in today's combine.
Numbers are for scouts who don't know how to look at tapes and make decisions base on numbers.
If you make decesion base on numbers, my grandma can make the selections.
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No they wouldn’t. Rice and Clayton would’ve destroyed the three cone drill. Measuring a player’s athleticism is NOT irrelevant. It’s one piece of the puzzle. Being a good athlete does not make you a good receiver but not being one hurts your chances immensely.
 
Andyman said:
CK had a great cut-up on Chase in the draft forum. The concern is how much film there is of him not separating from better corners.
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Specifically, quick separation. Tua excels at getting the ball out quickly and accurately. When our pass offense struggled under Tua it was generally b/c Tua didn't see separation and then held the ball or threw it quickly, but the target either didn't catch it or was tackled immediately b/c they lacked separation. It seems rather obvious that if you want to give your offense and Tua the best chance to succeed, that you'd prioritize the guy who excels at quick separation. That's why, as good as they are, I see Chase and Waddle as considerably lesser fits for Miami.
 
Dan13Forever said:
Data are for amateur. You either can play or can't play.
Clayton, Rice, Irvin will all do bad in today's combine.
Numbers are for scouts who don't know how to look at tapes and make decisions base on numbers.
If you make decesion base on numbers, my grandma can make the selections.
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On one hand you say data is for amateurs, then you say the professionals rely on it?

Hard to reconcile those two statements.

In truth, both matter when assessing a player and projection to the next level. To say anything else is dismissive of reality.
 
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