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Heres a coach with 3 years left on his contract, seemingly commited to rebuilding the Dolphins who just left College 2 years ago who continually denied his interest in the Alabama job. With all of the available coaches out there including bright NFL assistant coaches, why would they even consider this guy? Its almost like other Finheaven members inquiring about the availability of Cohwer. Why would he leave the Steelers after all of these successful years to take on the Dolphins job? Just for the challenge? Dumbfounding!:wink:
 
saban has been the most sought after coach in football for a number of years...people ahve always been tryingt o get him
 
NYC#1finsfan said:
Heres a coach with 3 years left on his contract, seemingly commited to rebuilding the Dolphins who just left College 2 years ago who continually denied his interest in the Alabama job. With all of the available coaches out there including bright NFL assistant coaches, why would they even consider this guy? Its almost like other Finheaven members inquiring about the availability of Cohwer. Why would he leave the Steelers after all of these successful years to take on the Dolphins job? Just for the challenge? Dumbfounding!:wink:
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They had a decent idea he was available thats why they fired Mike Shula. There is much more to this story than we will ever know.
 
To me, and listening to his wife, they planned all this in the offseason. He gambled on Culpepper and tried to do everything to get this team to the next level in a hurry because he was looking to go back to college.

There is no doubt in my mind that his agent went scouting for Alabama and Alabama knows this. All this crap was aready worked out way ahead of schedule. He also brought in two former HC in Capers and Mularky. If you start thinking about it and based on what he has been saying these past few weeks to today, that he had all this done long ago and Wayne Huizenga too. Wayne said they had a committee to find a coach around New years, what does that tell ya? He knew Nick was already gone.
 
Saban made a few admissions in his PC today.

1. As soon as they fired Mike Shula, Saban reached out and let his interest be known to them.

2. He openly admits he lied to the media and players about it, in the best interests of winning football games. Even the players admit they don't generally mind that, as they admit you can't play winning football with players thinking the coach is set to be gone.

3. He never spoke directly with Mal Moore until January 1st, but his agent Jimmy Sexton did all his talking for him.

He's a liar. There's no denying it. He admits he lied. He's not hiding it.
 
His agent....

His agent supposedly put out feelers about that job and other college jobs earlier this year. Saban is a worm.....:fire:

There is a very real possibility that Shula was let go after they heard his agent asking around...
 
NYC#1finsfan said:
Heres a coach with 3 years left on his contract, seemingly commited to rebuilding the Dolphins who just left College 2 years ago who continually denied his interest in the Alabama job. With all of the available coaches out there including bright NFL assistant coaches, why would they even consider this guy? Its almost like other Finheaven members inquiring about the availability of Cohwer. Why would he leave the Steelers after all of these successful years to take on the Dolphins job? Just for the challenge? Dumbfounding!:wink:
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because early sept saban knew he wanted out... and wanted that job... alabama's AD and saban's agent talked.

wayne knew saban was unhappy after his first year... he said as much yesterday.

the rest is history
 
ckparrothead said:
Saban made a few admissions in his PC today.

1. As soon as they fired Mike Shula, Saban reached out and let his interest be known to them.

2. He openly admits he lied to the media and players about it, in the best interests of winning football games. Even the players admit they don't generally mind that, as they admit you can't play winning football with players thinking the coach is set to be gone.

3. He never spoke directly with Mal Moore until January 1st, but his agent Jimmy Sexton did all his talking for him.

He's a liar. There's no denying it. He admits he lied. He's not hiding it.
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Yep, you laid it out nicely CK. No more college coaches Mr. Huizenga! Please Please Please! Its time to get someone to turn this offense around. This team is not bad, it is just not in sync and is in need of some good young talent at 5 or 6 positions and we can be a playoff team. I really believe it can be done in one year but to go all the way, will take a HC who can run an offense for this team and one more year of dead on draft picks and we could be there.
 
finfan54 said:
To me, and listening to his wife, they planned all this in the offseason. He gambled on Culpepper and tried to do everything to get this team to the next level in a hurry because he was looking to go back to college.

There is no doubt in my mind that his agent went scouting for Alabama and Alabama knows this. All this crap was aready worked out way ahead of schedule. He also brought in two former HC in Capers and Mularky. If you start thinking about it and based on what he has been saying these past few weeks to today, that he had all this done long ago and Wayne Huizenga too. Wayne said they had a committee to find a coach around New years, what does that tell ya? He knew Nick was already gone.
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Dude, no offense, but this just wasn't the case.

After last year, Saban was absolutely convinced he was heading in the right direction with the team. He conducted the off season with the intentions of winning a championship.

What affected him was the 1-6 start. That was when he began to question himself, his methods, whether he can be a coach at this level, where his heart is, etc. He sees his former LSU players doing well on other teams, he felt pride about that, he was losing ball games, and he missed college.

He was a coward, and I'm not denying that.

As for "scouting" Alabama during the off season, Alabama was 10-2 last year. They beat Texas Tech in the bowl game and if I'm not mistaken they really whooped them.

Mike Shula may not have QUITE been considered the second coming at that time, but he was certainly not close to being fired either.

There is absolutely no way Saban knew in the off season he could end up back at Alabama. There isn't even any way he could have reasonably speculated it. Your conspiracy theory just has no basis.
 
I know Shula had a poor record against Auburn, but it's very odd to see a coach get canned after a 10 win season especially when the team had been sanctioned and didn't have it's full number of scholarships. IMO Sexton sent out feelers for different preferably in the SEC, and Alabama canned Shula on the notion that Saban would be his replacement.
 
finfan54 said:
Yep, you laid it out nicely CK. No more college coaches Mr. Huizenga! Please Please Please! Its time to get someone to turn this offense around. This team is not bad, it is just not in sync and is in need of some good young talent at 5 or 6 positions and we can be a playoff team. I really believe it can be done in one year but to go all the way, will take a HC who can run an offense for this team and one more year of dead on draft picks and we could be there.
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I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with hiring college coaches. I think you should view them more skeptically than pro coaches, in general, but I still think the mistake in hiring Nick Saban was a VERY subtle one.

Nick's heart was in college ball. His ego enticed him to check out pro opportunities but his heart was in college ball.

But for that, Saban was a perfect hire. If he were here and his heart was in it, I do believe Miami would eventually have won a championship.
 
tmny99 said:
I know Shula had a poor record against Auburn, but it's very odd to see a coach get canned after a 10 win season especially when the team had been sanctioned and didn't have it's full number of scholarships. IMO Sexton sent out feelers for different preferably in the SEC, and Alabama canned Shula on the notion that Saban would be his replacement.
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When they fired Shula, he had just capped off a 6-6 record. That's a fireable offense, in Alabama. He hadn't bought the kind of clout that a guy like Phillip Fulmer has.

Shula was never an impressive pro coach, was not an impressive college coach either. Too many Dol-fans have a soft spot for him because of his daddy but that didn't make Dave Shula anything less than an absolutely horrid head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals.
 
I truely believe he wanted to leave, and told his agent to float a bubble out there to guage interest. I remember hearing rumblings about him taking over for Coker at UM, where theres smoke, theres fire.
 
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