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What to expect from Dontari Poe’s visit to the Miami Dolphins; PLUS a dark horse name

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This this is something I thought about too, but figure there had to be a reason every one wasn't going after this guy.


This is how it might work: Two-year deal for $16 million. Poe gets a $7 million signing bonus plus a base salary of $775,000 which is the veteran minimum for a sixth-year player. Throw in a $25,000 workout bonus and Poe reaches the magic $8 million mark in 2017 while his cap number is credible $4 million.Of course, under this contract scenario Poe will likely never see 2018 with the same team because next year he gets a base salary of $7.75 million plus another $25,000 workout bonus. His scheduled pay is the same at $8 million but because his cap number shoots up to $11.50 million due the million prorated portion of the signing bonus plus the base salary, the Dolphins would dump him as sure as you take out garbage.
Here’s another option: Why haven’t the Dolphins thought about Johnathan Hankins?
If you’re not familiar, he’s a free agent defensive tackle who started 16 games for the New York Giants last year. Unlike the Dolphins (30th in the NFL against the run) and Kansas City where Poe played (26th versus the run), the Giants actually were good at stopping the run last season. The Giants were tied with New England for third in the NFL against the run.
And Hankins was a good part of that.
Indeed, he played better than Poe, which is mind-numbing because everyone has this Poe, Poe, Poe obsession.
I’m not saying I’d pay Hankins $8 million per season, either. But I’d offer him the contract I outlined above before I would even pay for a Poe plane ticket.

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Here’s another option: Why haven’t the Dolphins thought about Johnathan Hankins?If you’re not familiar, he’s a free agent defensive tackle who started 16 games for the New York Giants last year. Unlike the Dolphins (30th in the NFL against the run) and Kansas City where Poe played (26th versus the run), the Giants actually were good at stopping the run last season. The Giants were tied with New England for third in the NFL against the run.
And Hankins was a good part of that.
Indeed, he played better than Poe, which is mind-numbing because everyone has this Poe, Poe, Poe obsession.
I’m not saying I’d pay Hankins $8 million per season, either. But I’d offer him the contract I outlined above before I would even pay for a Poe plane ticket.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/s...-salguero/article138580093.html#storylink=cpy
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http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/armando-salguero/article138580093.html
 
You are actually right. Poe is another Suh in that he is a bettr pass rusher but Jonathan is a better run stopper. Am not aure why theyre both still in the mkt.
 
I think Poe is still living off his reputation of a couple years ago. When motivated, he is a top 12 DT. When not, he is an over paid slug. Which version do we get ? I'd rather have a guy less talented that plays until the whistle and with a better motor. Those type of guys, like Landry, tend to be infectious to the other players.
 
I've been preaching Hankins since day 1 biggest steal on FA market. He's 24 also.
 
Armandos punter contract stuff is wacky
 
It's only a visit today for Poe. No word on him signing. Maybe it happens maybe it doesn't but people this front office knows what they are doing. If they can get him at a fair price then they will. If not then I am positive they won't overpay for the sake of overpaying and blow up our cap
 
Really getting a Mario Williams vibe off of Poe. The fact that he is still shopping for a home is troubling. No one is knocking him over with their offers and he maybe looking for one last pigeon to fleece. Hankins sounds like such better option, safer and cheaper.
 
fisi said:
You are actually right. Poe is another Suh in that he is a bettr pass rusher but Jonathan is a better run stopper. Am not aure why theyre both still in the mkt.
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Here is my problem with Hankins and Poe - still unsigned. I can understand Poe due to his alleged lack of effort. Hankins? Anyone know the deal here? Is he asking too much? Off-field issues? The guy looks like a top DT on tape.
 
fansinceGWilson said:
Here is my problem with Hankins and Poe - still unsigned. I can understand Poe due to his alleged lack of effort. Hankins? Anyone know the deal here? Is he asking too much? Off-field issues? The guy looks like a top DT on tape.
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I was wondering the same thing.... with quite a few teams out there needing a top DT/NT why is Hankins not being brought in for visits to at least a few of those teams?
 
DuderinoN703 said:
I don't really want Poe as a rental. What if he plays great? Some other team benefits next year?
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If he plays great and the Fins improve in Gase's second year (go to divisional round or hell, even further), people are going to recognize this team.

Having the best young coach in the league, one of the best locations in the country, no state income tax.... what player wouldn't want to come here?

They can funnel All-Pro rentals in and all day for as long as i'm concerned... Just make the Fins LEGIT again.
 
ShorePhin said:
Really getting a Mario Williams vibe off of Poe. The fact that he is still shopping for a home is troubling. No one is knocking him over with their offers and he maybe looking for one last pigeon to fleece. Hankins sounds like such better option, safer and cheaper.
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Not really seeing the comparison....

Williams was north of 30, on his 3rd contract (the 1st two being a very lucrative rookie deal and a massive one when he signed Buffalo). He did look like he was trying to get one last paycheck.

Poe, on the other hand, looks like he is looking for the best opportunity to up his value so he can land a long term lucrative deal. If it is a one year rental, hopefully it is one of him being a try hard for a big contract.
 
If Poe is forced into a market where he has to take a 1 year prove your healthy deal, there's no place better to do it than being sandwiched between Suh and Wake.
 
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