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What we have done with our draft picks, and what we should do moving forward

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Disclaimer: I am going to stay away from discussing Tua, and player not to be named. Picking a qb is the most riskiest picks that involve a lot of hindsight in conversations.

This season is giving many lots of things to think about. This team started the 2021 draft being complacent about two things.

a) Their offensive line
b) Linebackers

Who did we drafted?

1. Slot WR
2. Developing pass rusher
3. Safety
4. Offensive Lineman


We sacrificed a lot of collateral for our 6 round pick. After we traded down we acquired a No. 12 pick, first-round picks in the 2022 and 2023 drafts, and a third-round pick in 2022.

1. Rashawn Slater was going to be available at number 12 for us. So far he has only allowed 5 pressures, and would have been a better choice for us. But our team did not properly access their own player's weaknesses.
And we would have kept a 1st round pick next year.

2. Philips was a good pick by us. I don't feel confident we are playing him to his strengths, or are developing him to his strengths.

3. Holland will get better.

4. Eichenberg was overdrafted, and is extremely overated by people here. Sam Cosmi drafted a few picks later ended up being a stud.


Either how I am not going to pick apart everything , but I am going to point out a few flaws in our direction that ended up being costly in the end. This team would have looked at lot better with Rashawn Slater, and Cosmi minus a slot receiver. The slot receiver experiment was great on paper, but when you don't have a line, or a consistent play caller at qb then you are gonna pay for your bad decisions.


Grier 21-22 years in this Organization, and having about 4-5 years in management decisions needs to be fired at the end of the season regardless if we have a winning season or not. Perhaps we need someone else
to be more aggressive with our situations in our team, and make more bolder decisions.
 
juniorseau55 said:
Disclaimer: I am going to stay away from discussing Tua, and player not to be named. Picking a qb is the most riskiest picks that involve a lot of hindsight in conversations.

This season is giving many lots of things to think about. This team started the 2021 draft being complacent about two things.

a) Their offensive line
b) Linebackers

Who did we drafted?

1. Slot WR
2. Developing pass rusher
3. Safety
4. Offensive Lineman


We sacrificed a lot of collateral for our 6 round pick. After we traded down we acquired a No. 12 pick, first-round picks in the 2022 and 2023 drafts, and a third-round pick in 2022.

1. Rashawn Slater was going to be available at number 12 for us. So far he has only allowed 5 pressures, and would have been a better choice for us. But our team did not properly access their own player's weaknesses.
And we would have kept a 1st round pick next year.

2. Philips was a good pick by us. I don't feel confident we are playing him to his strengths, or are developing him to his strengths.

3. Holland will get better.

4. Eichenberg was overdrafted, and is extremely overated by people here. Sam Cosmi drafted a few picks later ended up being a stud.


Either how I am not going to pick apart everything , but I am going to point out a few flaws in our direction that ended up being costly in the end. This team would have looked at lot better with Rashawn Slater, and Cosmi minus a slot receiver. The slot receiver experiment was great on paper, but when you don't have a line, or a consistent play caller at qb then you are gonna pay for your bad decisions.


Grier 21-22 years in this Organization, and having about 4-5 years in management decisions needs to be fired at the end of the season regardless if we have a winning season or not. Perhaps we need someone else
to be more aggressive with our situations in our team, and make more bolder decisions.
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My biggest issue is that the Front Office misjudged the quality of the OL so badly heading into the draft. And with a QB that had only started 10 games coming off a major injury, the OL should have been under an even bigger microscope.
 
bdizzle00 said:
My biggest issue is that the Front Office misjudged the quality of the OL so badly heading into the draft. And with a QB that had only started 10 games coming off a major injury, the OL should have been under an even bigger microscope.
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they've been messing up for years...this is nothing new
 
They should have built the O-line and stuck with a QB like Fitz, and then inserted in Tua when the offense was complete with a competent staff. Instead, they ignored the O-line and RB position, have nobodies learning on the job coaching the offense, and inserted Tua into an impossible situation. Surprise, surprise, he got hurt behind a terrible O-line.
 
Clearly we can’t draft for crap in the first rounders. Trade it for Watson. We are begging for a Top Tier QB for years!
 
bdizzle00 said:
My biggest issue is that the Front Office misjudged the quality of the OL so badly heading into the draft. And with a QB that had only started 10 games coming off a major injury, the OL should have been under an even bigger microscope.
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Grier being here for 21 years not as a gm but as someone in charge of scouting talent then later a GM has to make some sense about "part of the reason".
 
Going forward, everyone needs to be fired, front office and coaches. Flores is a good defensive coach but that is it. His offense looks worse than Gase
 
I dont think it matters who we draft, this team will suck until we get competent coaching, particularly on the offensive side of the ball.
 
We drafted 3 OL in one draft and all are starting...

If you play the odds, the chance of all 3 becoming legit starters are low. Hell, most drafts don't end up having 3 starters at times, yet these guys were giving starting roles day 1. Rookies, especially the non Zach Martin/Quentin Nelson/Slater/ picks will struggle cause most aren't technically sound day 1. Yet, our plan was to go at it trial by fire with them because we had no decent players on the line.

The issue wouldn't be that bad if the other two spots were competent vets that could provide proper line reads, and help when needed. Nope. It is Jesse Davis and the endless rotation at center.

The team traded off talent for potential, and IMO they have squandered most of that potential away.
Took a corner thats a healthy scratch. Reached for a project LT in the late first.
Traded down and up(at a premium) for a slot receiver*.
They've ignored LB in the draft as well, and Baker hasn't done much and his pairing mates are JAGs.

*We took a QB and wanted to get him a weapon he had chemistry in college with. No hate there. But we paid a big price to move up to "secure" him.
 
If we drafted Herbert over Tua that alone would completely change this franchise.

Noah I and Austin Jackson were also terrible picks though in the same year.

Imagine having Justin Herbert, Jordan Jefferson, and Jonathan Taylor instead of Tua, Jackson, and Noah I.
 
jbyrd850 said:
If we drafted Herbert over Tua that alone would completely change this franchise.

Noah I and Austin Jackson were also terrible picks though in the same year.

Imagine having Justin Herbert, Jordan Jefferson, and Jonathan Taylor instead of Tua, Jackson, and Noah I.
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It will go down as our worst draft in Miami history
 
We should be okay with Grier, a Jeff Ireland type GM, stick with him, suffer, until he figures it out. However long it takes.
 
jbyrd850 said:
If we drafted Herbert over Tua that alone would completely change this franchise.

Noah I and Austin Jackson were also terrible picks though in the same year.

Imagine having Justin Herbert, Jordan Jefferson, and Jonathan Taylor instead of Tua, Jackson, and Noah I.
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Herbert would be on IR right now.
 
Here is something that I posted on another thread.

Looking at the draft day thread from 2020. NO ONE advocated Herbert over Tua on the day of. For pick 18, some suggestions were: Chaisson, Jones, Murray, McKinney. No one expected Jackson. Most were not happy with the pick. At the time, his age and upside were cited as the major positives. Nobody liked the pick for Noah at 30. We wanted Winfield, Mckinney, Delpit or Swift.
 
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