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We know that this is a very bad football team. What we don't know is exactly how it got this way. Last year, we showed some heart, some promise, some potential for building a good team. After an offseason with Saban and a draft with Saban and a TC with Saban....this team got very bad. Very bad. I wish I knew what he did so I could say to undo it. But this team is just out of hand horrible.

We know that Saban has lost this football team. They have quit on him, and he threw them under the bus today in the post game PC. We don't know if this means he'll leave at the end of the year or not, but if he doesn't, there has to be about a 70% turnover rate in the offseason. We know the core of current players on our roster have no confidence in Saban. And we know it shows.

We know that Saban is STILL going to be defended by many on this board. What we don't know is what excuse they will use this week to deflect criticism from him.

We know that DW was a poor coach. What we don't know is how much longer he can used as a scapegoat. Most teams with new coaches had bad predecessors. I just don't see Chicago continuing to harp on Dick Jauron. I don't see the Jets fans harping on Herman Edwards, and I don't see Cheifs fans criticizing Dick Vermiel.

We know that we are probably going to get the first or second overall draft pick next year. What we don't know is if that pick will be able to help us being that this may very well be the worst Fins team since the merger of the NFL/AFL.

All we can do is hope for the best. And right now I don't know if that means winning or losing. Of course, I wanna win every week. But at the same time, I know how so many Fins fans are. We win three in a row, and all of a sudden, Saban is a genius. And he's clearly not. For the long term health of the team, I think it would be best to lose every remaining game as to hasten Saban's departure, get the best picks we can get in the draft, and start the rebuilding process with a real coach, with a real vision.
 
TampaFinsFan01 said:
We know that this is a very bad football team. What we don't know is exactly how it got this way. Last year, we showed some heart, some promise, some potential for building a good team. After an offseason with Saban and a draft with Saban and a TC with Saban....this team got very bad. Very bad. I wish I knew what he did so I could say to undo it. But this team is just out of hand horrible.

We know that Saban has lost this football team. They have quit on him, and he threw them under the bus today in the post game PC. We don't know if this means he'll leave at the end of the year or not, but if he doesn't, there has to be about a 70% turnover rate in the offseason. We know the core of current players on our roster have no confidence in Saban. And we know it shows.

We know that Saban is STILL going to be defended by many on this board. What we don't know is what excuse they will use this week to deflect criticism from him.

We know that DW was a poor coach. What we don't know is how much longer he can used as a scapegoat. Most teams with new coaches had bad predecessors. I just don't see Chicago continuing to harp on Dick Jauron. I don't see the Jets fans harping on Herman Edwards, and I don't see Cheifs fans criticizing Dick Vermiel.

We know that we are probably going to get the first or second overall draft pick next year. What we don't know is if that pick will be able to help us being that this may very well be the worst Fins team since the merger of the NFL/AFL.

All we can do is hope for the best. And right now I don't know if that means winning or losing. Of course, I wanna win every week. But at the same time, I know how so many Fins fans are. We win three in a row, and all of a sudden, Saban is a genius. And he's clearly not. For the long term health of the team, I think it would be best to lose every remaining game as to hasten Saban's departure, get the best picks we can get in the draft, and start the rebuilding process with a real coach, with a real vision.

How did he throw them under the bus today when he said he wasn't going to call them out?
 
guys its sabans second year ...... give him two more years .... if he keeps coaching like wannstedt then give him the boot ....... .....
 
He needs to throw himself under the bus,cause he put this god awful coaching staff and team together.
 
TampaFinsFan01 said:
We know that Saban has lost this football team. They have quit on him, and he threw them under the bus today in the post game PC. We don't know if this means he'll leave at the end of the year or not, but if he doesn't, there has to be about a 70% turnover rate in the offseason. We know the core of current players on our roster have no confidence in Saban. And we know it shows.

How do "we" know Saban has lost the team? I haven't seen any players make statements that would indicate that. You're assuming based on the 1-6 record that is the case...which isn't always the best assumption. There are other teams in this league that have bad records....have each of those coaches lost their team? I doubt it.

Also, at what point did he throw the players under the bus and when did they quit? I thought they battled till the end today. They arent a very good team right now, which is why they are losing. If anything, Saban said he won't critcize players in public, but rather talk to them in meetings about what went well and what didn't. How is that throwing them under the bus? I know many are frustrated with Saban and the state of the team, but I just hate when assumptions are made based on our record.
 
TampaFinsFan01 said:
After an offseason with Saban and a draft with Saban and a TC with Saban....this team got very bad. Very bad. I wish I knew what he did so I could say to undo it. But this team is just out of hand horrible.

I think the answer is in your post. Saban is not Jesus and can not draw blood from a stone. He basically put a bandaid on last years team with Gus, KC, Spragan, Lance and all the other old geezers and a lot of teams underestimated them, also these guys can't bring it 60 minutes like they used to (including Zach).
Saban also did not have have enough picks the past two drafts to reload properly and that is why we have so many holes in this team.
This was never a one year project and he said that from the beginning.
 
elite14eva said:
we'll get it together....one day?

one day isnt good enough in this league... Im sure Cardinals fans have been saying that for years and look how far they've come. yes I am comparing the Dolphins to the Cardinals. Right now that Arizona looks better than the Fins.
 
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