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What do you think the Bears would give us for the 9th pick if Brady Quinn was still there?

Would you take their first and second round picks this year along with next years first?

I think i would. That trade would help us address our overall aging and average team. Also we probably wouldn't have to worry about a rookie holding out or a big rookie contract.

This all depends on Quinn being there and the Bears wanting a QB.The Bears would consider this for many reasons. Chicago fans, and some of their management all seem to dislike Grossman because of his inability to stay healthy and the fact that he more often then not makes bad decisions and throws. That trade for them would not be that far fetched because I think they feel like they are close to winning a super Bowl and feel that trade wouldn't be that much to get as good a QB as Quinn.

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PublixSubsRule said:
What do you think the Bears would give us for the 9th pick if Brady Quinn was still there?

Would you take their first and second round picks this year along with next years first?

I think i would. That trade would help us address our overall aging and average team. Also we probably wouldn't have to worry about a rookie holding out or a big rookie contract.

This all depends on Quinn being there and the Bears wanting a QB.The Bears would consider this for many reasons. Chicago fans, and some of their management all seem to dislike Grossman because of his inability to stay healthy and the fact that he more often then not makes bad decisions and throws. That trade for them would not be that far fetched because I think they feel like they are close to winning a super Bowl and feel that trade wouldn't be that much to get as good a QB as Quinn.

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Umm, that would be great, but not going to happen (except maybe in Madden)
 
If you are going to say why it wouldnt happen PLEASE STATE WHY, because the saints traded all of their picks for Ricky Willliams, I guess that would only happen in madden also....
 
PublixSubsRule said:
If you are going to say why it wouldnt happen PLEASE STATE WHY, because the saints traded all of their picks for Ricky Willliams, I guess that would only happen in madden also....
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Ok, not going to happen for two reasons:

(1) Brady Quinn is not going to make it to the Dolphins. He will go as far as the Cleveland Browns...

(2) If by some chance he does make it to us, the Bears would literally have to give up all their day 1 picks this year, and at least a 2nd round (probably 1st round and 3rd round) next year. I know the Saints traded all their picks for Ricky Williams, but the odds of that happening again is 1 in a million. The bears are more likely to pick up a LB (if Briggs leaves), maybe an OL/OG to provide depth for their line, or grab a TE to compliment Desmound Clark. If they truly want to draft a rookie QB to try to replace Grossman, they might draft Stanton with the 31st overall pick, or trade that down a little to pick him up early in the 2nd round and grab another draft pick.

The scenario is a dream scenario. I just don't see it happening. If it does, the Bears are just morons, because only the 2nd coming of Mariano/Elway/Montana/P.Manning/Brady all rolled into one is worth the kind of trade required to go from 31st overall to 9th overall.
 
Webb78OLman said:
Ok, not going to happen for two reasons:

(1) Brady Quinn is not going to make it to the Dolphins. He will go as far as the Cleveland Browns...

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Just Like Reggie Bush wouldn't make it to the Saints? And Matt Leinhart would fall past the Raiders and Lions?
 
Webb78OLman said:
Ok, not going to happen for two reasons:


(2) If by some chance he does make it to us, the Bears would literally have to give up all their day 1 picks this year, and at least a 2nd round (probably 1st round and 3rd round) next year. I know the Saints traded all their picks for Ricky Williams, but the odds of that happening again is 1 in a million. The bears are more likely to pick up a LB (if Briggs leaves), maybe an OL/OG to provide depth for their line, or grab a TE to compliment Desmound Clark. If they truly want to draft a rookie QB to try to replace Grossman, they might draft Stanton with the 31st overall pick, or trade that down a little to pick him up early in the 2nd round and grab another draft pick.

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The Saints only draft pick that year was Ricky Williams and although it isn't likely if the Bears wanted a STARTING QB for their team they would most likely want to trade up and get Quinn not get Stanton and hope he is good.
 
The NFL uses a point system for this kind of thing, i dont think its as far fetched as you may think. The 9th pick is worth 1350 points and the 31st 600. There second round pick would be worth in the 280 range and lets say they place 28 or 29 in next years draft, it would be pretty even (1350--1500, give or take.) Thats only about a 150 point differance, its actually very possible if they like Quinn.

So to Webb78OLman: please do a little research before you open your mouth and be rude. He said in that paricular scenario (Qiunn does drop, and the bears like him), would it be possible, and the answer is yes, probably not likely, but possible.
 
rob19 said:
The NFL uses a point system for this kind of thing, i dont think its as far fetched as you may think. The 9th pick is worth 1350 points and the 31st 600. There second round pick would be worth in the 280 range and lets say they place 28 or 29 in next years draft, it would be pretty even (1350--1500, give or take.) Thats only about a 150 point differance, its actually very possible if they like Quinn.

So to Webb78OLman: please do a little research before you open your mouth and be rude. He said in that paricular scenario (Qiunn does drop, and the bears like him), would it be possible, and the answer is yes, probably not likely, but possible.
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THANKS ALOT ROB19, I KNOW ABOUT THE POINT CHART I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VALUES ARE FOR EACH PICK
 
PublixSubsRule said:
The Saints only draft pick that year was Ricky Williams and although it isn't likely if the Bears wanted a STARTING QB for their team they would most likely want to trade up and get Quinn not get Stanton and hope he is good.
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You're missing the point. Brady Quinn is not good enough to justify trading up from 31st overall to 9th overall. He's just not. Plain and simple. And yes people sometimes fall farther than they are expected, so it is possible Quinn falls to us. I just don't see it happening because (a) Raiders can still take him (though they are more likely to take Russell), (b) the Lions need a young QB to train under Kitna (sound familiar? cough Carson Palmer cough), (c) Quinn really wants to play for the Browns, and Romeo Cronnell(spelling?) might not be sold on Frye, plus he's probably been in touch with Weis about Quinn, (d) then there are the other 5 teams in front of us that could trade down to someone else who wants him, including the Texans who might be shopping David Carr, meaning they have a QB opening (yes they'd rather take a RB, but if cleveland doesn't take Quinn do you really think they will pass on Adrian Peterson?). Quinn has talent yes, but the Bears got to the Super Bowl, and Grossman isn't that bad, he shows signs of the talent that got him drafted in the 1st round. They aren't about to give up on him after Grossman's first (count it, first!!!) full year as a starter. Give them at least another year before anything about his future is decided.
 
rob19 said:
The NFL uses a point system for this kind of thing, i dont think its as far fetched as you may think. The 9th pick is worth 1350 points and the 31st 600. There second round pick would be worth in the 280 range and lets say they place 28 or 29 in next years draft, it would be pretty even (1350--1500, give or take.) Thats only about a 150 point differance, its actually very possible if they like Quinn.

So to Webb78OLman: please do a little research before you open your mouth and be rude. He said in that paricular scenario (Qiunn does drop, and the bears like him), would it be possible, and the answer is yes, probably not likely, but possible.
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Ok, my bad, didn't look up the point system. I still don't think the trade makes any sense for the Bears.
 
rob19 said:
The NFL uses a point system for this kind of thing, i dont think its as far fetched as you may think. The 9th pick is worth 1350 points and the 31st 600. There second round pick would be worth in the 280 range and lets say they place 28 or 29 in next years draft, it would be pretty even (1350--1500, give or take.) Thats only about a 150 point differance, its actually very possible if they like Quinn.

So to Webb78OLman: please do a little research before you open your mouth and be rude. He said in that paricular scenario (Qiunn does drop, and the bears like him), would it be possible, and the answer is yes, probably not likely, but possible.
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Actually, just looked up the point system, so I was right with my original guess of all Day 1 picks plus a 2nd round next year (600+276+120=996, difference of 354, and if the Bears go to the playoffs next year (very likely) a 2nd round pick makes the deal even). So that's 4 day 1 draft picks for Brady Quinn (makes a lot more sense for the dolphins than trading it for two 1st round picks, we do need more draft picks). There's no way the Bears make that deal. Maybe if Matt Muellen (spelling?) was in charge they might. It is an interesting idea, but it just wont' happen.
 
Webb78OLman said:
You're missing the point. Brady Quinn is not good enough to justify trading up from 31st overall to 9th overall. He's just not. Plain and simple. And yes people sometimes fall farther than they are expected, so it is possible Quinn falls to us. I just don't see it happening because (a) Raiders can still take him (though they are more likely to take Russell), (b) the Lions need a young QB to train under Kitna (sound familiar? cough Carson Palmer cough), (c) Quinn really wants to play for the Browns, and Romeo Cronnell(spelling?) might not be sold on Frye, plus he's probably been in touch with Weis about Quinn, (d) then there are the other 5 teams in front of us that could trade down to someone else who wants him, including the Texans who might be shopping David Carr, meaning they have a QB opening (yes they'd rather take a RB, but if cleveland doesn't take Quinn do you really think they will pass on Adrian Peterson?). Quinn has talent yes, but the Bears got to the Super Bowl, and Grossman isn't that bad, he shows signs of the talent that got him drafted in the 1st round. They aren't about to give up on him after Grossman's first (count it, first!!!) full year as a starter. Give them at least another year before anything about his future is decided.
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A.) THE raiders will take either Russel or Calvin Johnson
B.) The Lions coach Marillali (spelling) sad he will stick with Kitna, and the Lions Need O-line help Via Joe Thomas, and lastly the Lions are not the Bengals.
C.) It doesn't matter what the player wants, un less he is a premadonna example Eli Manning (which Quinn is not)
D.) The Texans need help all over and Carr will not be going anywhere.

The bears got to the Super Bowl with Grossmen because of the defence not the QB, HECK Orton won a lot of games. The Bears might believe a QB will puit them over the top. How many INTS did Grossman have in the Super Bowl? 2
 
PublixSubsRule said:
A.) THE raiders will take either Russel or Calvin Johnson
B.) The Lions coach Marillali (spelling) sad he will stick with Kitna, and the Lions Need O-line help Via Joe Thomas, and lastly the Lions are not the Bengals.
C.) It doesn't matter what the player wants, un less he is a premadonna example Eli Manning (which Quinn is not)
D.) The Texans need help all over and Carr will not be going anywhere.

The bears got to the Super Bowl with Grossmen because of the defence not the QB, HECK Orton won a lot of games. The Bears might believe a QB will puit them over the top. How many INTS did Grossman have in the Super Bowl? 2
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Exactly, Orton won a lot of games. So if someone like Orton can win, why do they need to trade a lot of picks for Brady Quinn? As for the Cleveland thing you might want to address my other point about Cleveland picking him, just just that Quinn wants to play there.
 
PublixSubsRule said:
A.) THE raiders will take either Russel or Calvin Johnson
B.) The Lions coach Marillali (spelling) sad he will stick with Kitna, and the Lions Need O-line help Via Joe Thomas, and lastly the Lions are not the Bengals.
C.) It doesn't matter what the player wants, un less he is a premadonna example Eli Manning (which Quinn is not)
D.) The Texans need help all over and Carr will not be going anywhere.

The bears got to the Super Bowl with Grossmen because of the defence not the QB, HECK Orton won a lot of games. The Bears might believe a QB will puit them over the top. How many INTS did Grossman have in the Super Bowl? 2
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By the way, saying the Raiders will take either Russel or Johnson is making the same mistake you are accusing me of by saying Quinn won't go past the Browns. Anything can happen.
 
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