What's our record today if Keller, Patterson, and Gibson started in 16 Games in 2013?

[roy_miami]

In my humble opinion you're looking at this in reverse of how you should be. An adequate quarterback in this league is what mitigates actual or potential deficiencies or unexpected pitfalls (i.e., Martin/Incognito) with regard to all of those other variables you're talking about. That's the efficient and predictable apprach to winning, not trying to mitigate an inadequate (at this point) quarterback with a great number of other variables.

He's a second year QB and with the stats he's producing its pretty clear to me he has the ability to make players around him better. Hartline, Clay and probably even Gibson look a lot better than they are because of Tannehill, imo anyway. He could have gotten us another win just by himself had he made some better throws to Wallace or had better pocket awareness but I'll give him a pass being he's in his second year and raw. What he needed was a team like the Bengals have around Dalton or if you don't want to provide that then just give him more time.

 

[Dr. Phin]

8-8

Playing these games are just stupid. Every team has injuries. What is the Pats record without injuries? How about GB?

 

[stephins87]

Patriots lost Gronk, Wilfork, Mayo, Tommie Kelly and countless linemen like Vollmer right? Most of those guys are Pro Bowlers and they still won the division. No excuses, this team doesn't have a good coaching staff or QB to win consistently.

 

[roy_miami]

Patriots lost Gronk, Wilfork, Mayo, Tommie Kelly and countless linemen like Vollmer right? Most of those guys are Pro Bowlers and they still won the division. No excuses, this team doesn't have a good coaching staff or QB to win consistently.

And they still had one very important probowler. Honest question, how many wins is Brady and Belichick and their 25 years worth of experience over Philbin and Tannehill worth in terms of wins? Even with all of the injuries both teams suffered we're still just even at best in talent outside of the QB position, and I don't think Tannehill himself was even 100%. So Tom Brady being one of the best QBs of all time and a decade more of experience must be worth at least one win, right?