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I understand that all of us have opinions and the ability to express them through this board, but to directly say how much you hate or how detrimental a certain QB, who you know we are openly trying to sign, would be to the team is way beyond me. The fact is that all QB's that we have to choose from this year or any year are gonna have certain intangibles that could either be positive or negative to any team. With that being said...

I see a lot of Daunte bashing but no one has said anything actually degrading Brees and his skills, only how critical his injury is. While I would love to have either of these great QB's, how could any of you say that the season would be lost with Culpepper? When you say things like that you're basically saying "I want to eat crow"... because you know as soon as Culpepper steps on the field and guns one straight for chambers 50 yards deep like he used to with Moss, you're going to go out and buy his Dolphins jersey. I know he'll throw picks or fumble, but all QB's do and whats important to me is that he gives our team a better chance to win.

So please stop being so anti-Daunte because he will be the demise of our club, and be anti-Daunte for his small hands, his being unproven without Moss, or for his endzone dance...
 
illscriptures said:
I understand that all of us have opinions and the ability to express them through this board, but to directly say how much you hate or how detrimental a certain QB, who you know we are openly trying to sign, would be to the team is way beyond me. The fact is that all QB's that we have to choose from this year or any year are gonna have certain intangibles that could either be positive or negative to any team. With that being said...

I see a lot of Daunte bashing but no one has said anything actually degrading Brees and his skills, only how critical his injury is. While I would love to have either of these great QB's, how could any of you say that the season would be lost with Culpepper? When you say things like that you're basically saying "I want to eat crow"... because you know as soon as Culpepper steps on the field and guns one straight for chambers 50 yards deep like he used to with Moss, you're going to go out and buy his Dolphins jersey. I know he'll throw picks or fumble, but all QB's do and whats important to me is that he gives our team a better chance to win.

So please stop being so anti-Daunte because he will be the demise of our club, and be anti-Daunte for his small hands, his being unproven without Moss, or for his endzone dance...
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I definitely agree, but unfortunately some posters on this forum like to ignore logical thoughts.
 
cltchperf said:
I definitely agree, but unfortunately some posters on this forum like to ignore logical thoughts.
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the fact that many of the people knocking Culpepper use the same lines over and over again gets old... "he cant play without Moss!"- well, we have our own 84 here who can go up and get the ball... "he had a horrible season last year" - key words: last year! not every QB has a great year and there are a lot of other factors that go into Pepper's failure in Minny last year (poor O-line play, new OC, lack of running game to keep all focus off of him, etc)... the list of complaints against Culpepper just goes on and on and its sickening that many fans wont look past their own opinions of a man who would without a doubt improve our team... there is a reason he started over Gus when they were both in Minny, and it would be no different here... I would LOVE to see either Drew Brees or Culpepper in Aqua & Orange, just so long as it is ONE OF THEM....
 
illscriptures said:
I understand that all of us have opinions and the ability to express them through this board, but to directly say how much you hate or how detrimental a certain QB, who you know we are openly trying to sign, would be to the team is way beyond me. The fact is that all QB's that we have to choose from this year or any year are gonna have certain intangibles that could either be positive or negative to any team. With that being said...

I see a lot of Daunte bashing but no one has said anything actually degrading Brees and his skills, only how critical his injury is. While I would love to have either of these great QB's, how could any of you say that the season would be lost with Culpepper? When you say things like that you're basically saying "I want to eat crow"... because you know as soon as Culpepper steps on the field and guns one straight for chambers 50 yards deep like he used to with Moss, you're going to go out and buy his Dolphins jersey. I know he'll throw picks or fumble, but all QB's do and whats important to me is that he gives our team a better chance to win.

So please stop being so anti-Daunte because he will be the demise of our club, and be anti-Daunte for his small hands, his being unproven without Moss, or for his endzone dance...
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I agree with you, not only the anti-Daunte but the anti-Brees and any other anti posts that pops up.
 
I don't know how anybody could be upset about getting DC. I will be very happy if end up with either DB or DC. I would rather have DB because of his intangables, but I could make an argument that DC would be a better fit for our offense and he already know's our offense.
 
illscriptures said:
I understand that all of us have opinions and the ability to express them through this board, but to directly say how much you hate or how detrimental a certain QB, who you know we are openly trying to sign, would be to the team is way beyond me. The fact is that all QB's that we have to choose from this year or any year are gonna have certain intangibles that could either be positive or negative to any team. With that being said...

I see a lot of Daunte bashing but no one has said anything actually degrading Brees and his skills, only how critical his injury is. While I would love to have either of these great QB's, how could any of you say that the season would be lost with Culpepper? When you say things like that you're basically saying "I want to eat crow"... because you know as soon as Culpepper steps on the field and guns one straight for chambers 50 yards deep like he used to with Moss, you're going to go out and buy his Dolphins jersey. I know he'll throw picks or fumble, but all QB's do and whats important to me is that he gives our team a better chance to win.

So please stop being so anti-Daunte because he will be the demise of our club, and be anti-Daunte for his small hands, his being unproven without Moss, or for his endzone dance...
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I agree, but hey everyone's entitled to their opinion. Mine is, would be very happy if Miami were to get either Brees or Culpepper.
 
I just know Culpepper does throw many Int's, and he fumbles more than any QB in the league. Both of those things I dont like, but I do like his arm strength, and his ability to run, but after this knee injury, who knows.
 
illscriptures said:
I understand that all of us have opinions and the ability to express them through this board, but to directly say how much you hate or how detrimental a certain QB, who you know we are openly trying to sign, would be to the team is way beyond me. The fact is that all QB's that we have to choose from this year or any year are gonna have certain intangibles that could either be positive or negative to any team. With that being said...

I see a lot of Daunte bashing but no one has said anything actually degrading Brees and his skills, only how critical his injury is. While I would love to have either of these great QB's, how could any of you say that the season would be lost with Culpepper? When you say things like that you're basically saying "I want to eat crow"... because you know as soon as Culpepper steps on the field and guns one straight for chambers 50 yards deep like he used to with Moss, you're going to go out and buy his Dolphins jersey. I know he'll throw picks or fumble, but all QB's do and whats important to me is that he gives our team a better chance to win.

So please stop being so anti-Daunte because he will be the demise of our club, and be anti-Daunte for his small hands, his being unproven without Moss, or for his endzone dance...
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That is because last time Drew Brees stepped on the field, he didn't throw 12 picks in 5 games and then suffer a huge injury as Culpepper did. He was HORRIBLE last year before he got hurt. What are we suppose to think? Brees has been a pro bowler the last two years so he is obviously in him prime.
 
I don't know about you but I don't base 5 or 6 games on how good or bad a qb is, especially if he's had 4 or 5 good seasons, especially '04. Yeah this is a recent thing, but a qb's history does give an idea of how good, mediocre or bad a qb is. It's usually age that factors if the qb has a downfall, both Brees and Culpepper are fairly young. Someone using that logic would have thought that Jon Kitna was a good starting qb, when he had a career year the first season that Palmer was drafter. But if you look his past history and stats, he's alright qb, nothing good, nothing bad, or mediocre. So people will say all this about Culpepper, but then turn a blind eye on Brees? I believe Brees had 3 seasons, may be 4 where eh was inconsistent and sucked, the suddlenly with the pressure from Rivers he finally plays well. There are two sides to everystory, but unfortunately some people have tunnel vision and see only what they want to see.
 
Well, this will be the first thing I say on here that may cause a squirm, but I'd say it's racism.

Yes, I said it, and I really think it's true. Along with many classy and respective posters here, there is a good share of immature, ignorant know-it-alls. Just look at the silly things being said in the last week about the QB situation. Sorry if I ruffled some feathers.
 
Ive said all along Id be thrilled with Pep. The Moss argument is so illogical it isnt funny. The guy lit up the league without Moss 2 years ago.
 
illscriptures said:
So please stop being so anti-Daunte because he will be the demise of our club, and be anti-Daunte for his small hands, his being unproven without Moss, or for his endzone dance...
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Does Daunte not have small hands, in comparison to most NFL QBs ??? Is he not unproven without Moss ?? I don't watch endzone dances so I don't care.

But these are facts and facts need to be expressed...these aren't opinions...

Daunte was a strong-arm QB with good mobility, weak decision making skills that lead to excessive INTS, small hands that led to an excessive number of fumbles, and at best a question in the locker room and off the field (character, if you will)...these are facts. Now, he has about as bad a knee injury as you can get. This injury will limit one of his strengths...Mobility...It is more than likely that he won't be ready to start the season and if he does, it'll be not at full recovery. This injury takes a full calendar year to recover from (per his doctor that did the surgery). Some use the Willis McGahee argument (injuries were similar) and true enough, he returned to be a very good back so far, probably not as good as without the injury, but more than serviceable. The issue is that Willis had 18 months of rehab before he had to come back and play...we are asking Culpepper to come back in aobut 9 months....To blindly say that he will recover 100% is not factual either. He'll never be where he once was. That said, in time, he should be back and rightfully so, his arm isn't affected...Mobility in the pocket and on runs will be, but other QBs have been able to be fairly successful without great mobility.

Brees also has issues and in fairness, the shoulder injury probably presents more of a question, coupled with his relatively weak arm. He has, however, shown to be able to overcome that weakness. It's still a question as to whether or not the strength will return to his shoulder. The time table is much shorter on Brees and he likely will be able to start the season if we acquire him. As with Daunte, we'll know when they start playing whether or not the injury will affect their careers.

The big difference between the two based on facts right now is the character issues. Brees has been a model citizen. He could have made things in SD pretty sticky between he and Rivers and it never happened. He could have been bad mouthing SD since they didn't want to give him a long term contract and his play earned him that. He has no off the field issues and his teammates like him very much. He leads by example. The same cannot be said for Daunte. He has bad mouthed his organization, lobbied in the media for a pay increase (and has a very generous contract), has issues with the law, made things uncomfortable in the locker room with Moss and generally does not set a very good example...These issue may not mean much to some, but they speak volumes of the type of person we may be getting...

For my money, I'll take Brees and the questions he brings rather than Daunte. All this and I stated facts to back up my opinion...
 
dQbell said:
Well, this will be the first thing I say on here that may cause a squirm, but I'd say it's racism.

Yes, I said it, and I really think it's true. Along with many classy and respective posters here, there is a good share of immature, ignorant know-it-alls. Just look at the silly things being said in the last week about the QB situation. Sorry if I ruffled some feathers.
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Oh so true, There are some people who put up great posts and debates because they look at all different sides and aspects inside of just their 2 cents. Then there's the posters who say there facts are the truth, and one only larea and are close minded. Then there are some who love to argue no matter what and win arguments or read/use information just for gathering ammunition to use against the poster. This is called ambushing according to my communications class, which is not a good thing.
 
to all fin fans i must say i like brees , i think he is a decent qb but does it registar to anybody that brees didn't start performing well in san diego till he had some pressure on him when rivers got there, then all of a sudden he started playing great.if he was doing what he was to suppose to do they would have never selected a qb in the draft. people forget that san diego was willing to part ways with brees because he was stinking the joint up and they wanted to get rid of him and nobody wanted him. now yes he has improved but only because he had rivers breathing down his back. who is to say brees won't go back to his old inconsistant days once he gets paid and has security. also culpepper has his faults too but man you have to love his arm which is i say better than brees. fin fans don't believe all the hype about brees because he just might revert to his old ways once he has the money and security he needs. why would he want to go to new orleans rather miami with a chance to win, my feeling too much pressure would be placed on him and why not go to a team like n.o where there's no pressure to win and count his money. just a thought people respond to it if u want, just remember how he was before rivers got there, so give me culpepper
 
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