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Whats wrong with our Defense? Scheme or Talent?

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I'm not sure what's worng with the defense but this doesn't look like the same defense that played in weeks 1,3 & 4.

It seems at times they can't tackle, but they can sure create turnovers. Then we tend to give up big plays even on 3rd downs and long. Is that Pasquolnoi's scheme????

We seem to catch alot of breaks but can't can't cash in on them.

So what is the problem? Scheme (playcalling) or talent?
 
I think it's a combination of all of the above. There have been times they looked like they were simply not ready to play and, other times they looked like they brought a kinfe to a gunfight.

Bad tackleing is a result of bad coaching, though, no question. That is unexuseable.
 
I think it's a combination of all of the above. There have been times they looked like they were simply not ready to play and, other times they looked like they brought a kinfe to a gunfight.

Bad tackleing is a result of bad coaching, though, no question. That is unexuseable.

I'm not so sure that bad tackling is the result of bad coaching at the NFL level. High school and college yes, but in the NFL, you either know how to tackle or you don't. Or better said, you either have the talent and ability to tackle consistently or you don't.

I think it's the same thing with dropping easy interceptions. Either you're a ball hawk or you're not. I'm not asking for circus interceptions, but when guys consistently drop balls that hit them in the numbers, I'm not so sure that I can blame it on the coaches.
 
I'm not sure what's worng with the defense but this doesn't look like the same defense that played in weeks 1,3 & 4.

It seems at times they can't tackle, but they can sure create turnovers. Then we tend to give up big plays even on 3rd downs and long. Is that Pasquolnoi's scheme????

We seem to catch alot of breaks but can't can't cash in on them.

So what is the problem? Scheme (playcalling) or talent?

The Miami D is pretty solid, but is prone to a few boneheaded mistakes from time to time.

Is your DC really Paul Pasqualoni? He was the beginning of the end of Syracuse University dominance. I honestly didn't know what he was doing now. It is surprising that he is coaching in the NFL.
 
It dosen't help the defense any that the DB's keep dropping gimme INT... 3 in the last 2 weeks alone... if they make the int's miami, wins the Texans game and could have been in position to win the game against BAL... i also feel holliday isn't stout against the run and porter has been out of position on several of the long runs to his side... he's not being smart enough to recognize it's a run and he just charges up field and over runs the play... going into next year... a more stout DE to replace holliday (CRIS CANTY) and a #1 CB type (CHRIS GAMBLE) would go a long way in making the defense better!!!
 
its got to be talent, you can have the best scheme if the guys can't execute it you have bad tackling and dropped interceptions and a rookie qb look like peyton manning
 
mostly talent... we've got the goods up front, but the secondary is killing us. And when our offense struggles, those hogs in the front seven get tired and worn out. We need more talent all around, more depth, and some playmakers. It's not gonna get fixed over night, but we do have plenty of the right piece in place
 
I agree with nosleep...... Our corners are not playing good ball, and teams can throw at will against us. Balt. expossed our weak run d this week... We have some talent but not enough to win more then 5 games in the NFL
 
The D had poor gap control just about the entire game... and Furgy getting hurt didn't help.... we had very poor tackling... good initial contact with no wrap up.... all correctable... now in regards to pass D... well... another story....
 
I'm not so sure that bad tackling is the result of bad coaching at the NFL level. High school and college yes, but in the NFL, you either know how to tackle or you don't. Or better said, you either have the talent and ability to tackle consistently or you don't.

I think it's the same thing with dropping easy interceptions. Either you're a ball hawk or you're not. I'm not asking for circus interceptions, but when guys consistently drop balls that hit them in the numbers, I'm not so sure that I can blame it on the coaches.


so you dont think an nfl player should run drills on catching intrcepetions, stripping and recovering footballs because theyre pewee coaches taught them stuff years ago.
 
If some can't see the abomination that this team was under the "leadership" of ZT and JT then I don't know what else to tell you, and today's game should be your only realization.

I'd like to post an email that I sent to Omar Kelley about 4 weeks ago, and his response. Enjoy:

Omar,

I respect you opinion on pretty much everything. Even though I'm a Gator and took issue with some of the 'home schooled' comments you mentioned regarding Tim Tebow, I'm willing to overlook them since I pretty much agree with a lot of what you say regarding the Dolphins. (btw, stating the Gators are arrogant is quite amusing since Miami has cornered the market on that front).

I'd like to mention something in regards to the current regime and how I honestly don't think anything will change until we completely gut this roster and get rid of the vets that somehow feel they're entitled, and have this unwarranted superiority complex when in reality they've accomplished absolutely nothing. We took some steps in the right direction when we released ZT, and definitely did the right thing by trading the dancing defensive end. This team was basically a scrap heap, and the vets were the old, grumpy junk yard dogs who felt they could run the team themselves.

I'm sorry, but Cam Cameron was a good coach. Maybe he made some rookie mistakes (that Sparano no doubt has made and will continue to make), but Cameron had the right idea, at least offensively. I remember like it was yesterday when Cameron came in, how Zach was stating it was nice to have an offensive guy in for a change, how the corners were so much happier that they didn't have a 5'0 ego maniac screaming in their face every practice, and how Davie was, for the most part, a much more relaxed atmosphere.

All of a sudden, JT doesn't get a phone call when Cameron comes in, and he begins a mutiny against the head coach that, apparently, no one seemed to notice, and a very good offensive mind (Cameron), and a proven GM (Mueller) were there to take the brunt of the abuse.

I mean, JT makes light of Trent Green's concussions well before he even steps foot in Davie, which is apparently a subject that's not too sensitive to talk about when it comes to our new quarterback at the time, but I'm sure nothing he would touch upon when talking about his brother-in-law. Vonnie Holliday, another one of JT's henchmen, rips into our first rounder at the time (Ginn) basically stating, "You should've been Brady Quinn", before he even signs a contract, which is a great way to not only welcome a new team mate, but a kid. Couple that with the fact that Mueller was forced to make the hard decisions relative to the roster and the long-term future of the team so Parcells and Co. didn't have to i.e. releasing McMike, trading Welker, trading Chambers, and trying to get some value for what this team lost with Daunte Culpepper, now a player only a year removed from claiming, "I just want a chance to compete", has now been exposed as the selfish, greedy whiner that the truly informed knew him to be all along.

So Mueller and Cameron were the bad guys. They were new comers that didn't respect the vets, that didn't turn the team over to the vets to try and lead, that had the audacity to think, "Heck, maybe we'll actually be here for a while, let's try and make some moves that will help us down the line", but that apparently rubbed the vets that controlled the locker room the wrong way, and this team that had such great "leaders" in the locker room, followed their cues to a 1-15 season.

Let's also not forget about Zach cornering Mueller at a team banquet, questioning him on why there was a rumor going about the locker room that Randy felt Zach's skills were diminishing. A sentiment that was validated when Parcells and Ireland released him less than a year later.

So you basically had a team that liked Cameron, until Xerxis (Taylor) started to play pretend GM, questioning every move they made, and the team turned on Cam in the blink of an eye. That's not a coaching problem, that's a player problem. How nice it must have been for the trifecta to walk into such a cozy situation. Plenty of cap room thanks to the last regime, extra draft picks in the second round thanks to the last regime, zero expectations, and an owner that will hand the reigns of the franchise over to whichever snake oil salesman happens upon his door step.

I'm sure Cameron is happy, though. I mean, he just lead a Ravens offense to a win with two rookie RBs and a rookie QB...from Delaware, no less. The comments from the players a couple weeks ago were that they're happy they have a coach in Sparano that got in their face and demanded more, yet their tune was totally different when Cameron's approach replaced the tense practices Saban ran, so which is it, fellas? 'cause I'll be honest, you would be hard pressed to notice a difference between the opener against the Jets last Sunday and the opener against the Redskins last year.

The stats were virtually the same, the opposing RB still ran at will (Portis-Jones), 2nd tier WRs still burned us in pro bowl-like fashion (Randle-El-Cotchery), our secondary looked as cluelsess as ever, even though the defense has been simplified, and when it comes to the scoreboard, we had a chance to win it last weekend just like we had a chance to win it against Washington, only at least we had the ability to tie the game before it ended last year and take it into OT.

I mean, the only real difference between this year's opener and last year's is Bobby Jackson at least had our backs running better, and the offensive line was clearly performing better under Houck. I guess my real point is this:

No amount of coaching is going to replace the "it's not our fault" attitude that permeates the Dolphins locker room. It seems as though the "no job is safe" mentality is being enforced under Parcells, but until we completely overhaul this roster, the result will continue to be the same.

"Kelly, Omar" <OKelly@sun-sentinel.com> wrote:
That was amazing.

I know I hinted a bit in last monday's bl+g that this start reminded me a lot of last years start, but every single word you said was true, and I was thinking the same thing.

You need to post that somewhere. Send it as a letter to the editor. For real. Its good and accurate.

They need wins for this approach to keep working.

O

 
Our pass rush hasn't been as good which, in turn, exposes the secondary. And then on top of that, the tackling has been awful in the open field.
 
I think alot of it is talent. We don't have a true shutdown corner as many other teams around the league do. Some teams have a couple really good corners and a good safety or two.

I like Will Allen and I like Bell. But they aren't gonna be shutting down the better WRs in the league. They are nice role players to have with within a secondary that has at least 1 shutdown corner. If I was revamping the secondary, I would keep those 2 and get rid of the rest. I know that may not be realistic in 1 off-season but Allen/Bell are all I see that are worthwhile.
 
plain and simple.... Ferguson is the most important player on our defense.....without him( Injured early in the 1st quarter) and his backup (Soliai was suspended for the Baltimore game) a 3-4 defense cant work.
 
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