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Where Will Gesicki Fit in Dolphins O & Future?

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Mike Gesicki is a Phan favorite of many including myself and was very glad we tagged him. Big question is what's next? A closer look:

He is not a TE. Last year, he was in line for only 99 pf 827 snaps. He was in the slot for 453 and outside for 252. Unless McD thinks he can block in the ZBS he is one of our WRs but cannot be called that as we got to tag him as a TE. He was a good WR last season with 78 catches for 780 but only 2 scores. This year is a whole different picture.

Hill and Wilson were both in the slot 500 times last year and Waddle 485. That's Lots of Slots. How do we fit him in?

As to the future, I I don't see a long term deal and think he will convince the NFL he is a WR. Instead of a $12M tag it would double.

How will this all shake out?
 
Would his value really double? As the 8th highest TE in receiving yards during the regular season last year, he probably gets 12.5M. As the 37th WR, he just below Kendrick Bourne. Would you pay Kendrick Bourne $24m. I keep coming back to the heavier use of Ingold as a FB and/or Smythe & Long as in-line TE. Mike may not see the field as much as before and he could be traded before the deadline if his usage is falling away.
 
42March said:
Would his value really double? As the 8th highest TE in receiving yards during the regular season last year, he probably gets 12.5M. As the 37th WR, he just below Kendrick Bourne. Would you pay Kendrick Bourne $24m. I keep coming back to the heavier use of Ingold as a FB and/or Smythe & Long as in-line TE. Mike may not see the field as much as before and he could be traded before the deadline if his usage is falling away.
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If you tag a player the NFL dictates you pay him the average if the 5 highest players at that position.
If you tag a 2nd year add 10% which is OK IF we keep the TE deal.
 
So Be said:
Mike Gesicki is a Phan favorite of many including myself and was very glad we tagged him. Big question is what's next? A closer look:

He is not a TE. Last year, he was in line for only 99 pf 827 snaps. He was in the slot for 453 and outside for 252. Unless McD thinks he can block in the ZBS he is one of our WRs but cannot be called that as we got to tag him as a TE. He was a good WR last season with 78 catches for 780 but only 2 scores. This year is a whole different picture.

Hill and Wilson were both in the slot 500 times last year and Waddle 485. That's Lots of Slots. How do we fit him in?

As to the future, I I don't see a long term deal and think he will convince the NFL he is a WR. Instead of a $12M tag it would double.

How will this all shake out?
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Don't be discouraged if there is not a lot of participation in this thread. This subject has been beaten to death over the past 6 months.
 
Mach2 said:
Don't be discouraged if there is not a lot of participation in this thread. This subject has been beaten to death over the past 6 months.
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I did not know or would have never posted. Can you just delete it? I try to avoid dead horses.
 
It's wait and see with Gesicki. Personally, I can't wait to see how McDaniel utilizes his talent. With defenses likely to focus on Hill and Waddle, Gesicki could have a huge year.

I'm also interested to see if Long emerges.

At some point, it's going to be hard to fit in all the young talent.
 
The team is taking a wait and see approach on how he does in McDaniel's offense.

It is a bit of a gamble because if he excels he will either leave or cost them more $$$ than they could have signed him for.

I have a feeling they will let him walk no matter how he does as he is just not the blocker that McDaniel wants at TE.

It will be telling how much Hunter Long plays and how well he does as he fits the TE specs that McDaniel is looking for but obviously has not shown anything in the NFL yet.
 
Mike Gesicki is never going to be a great, or probably good blocking TE, but with the right coaching and technique. Gesicki could be pretty effective in laying one shot, or just getting in the way long enough to give Tua that extra second, or slowing down the defensive player long enough to help the hole for the RB stay open enough to sneak through.

Blocking can be brute force, but anyone with the right coaching can be slightly effective at making it tough for defensive players to do their job if the person you working with is either powerful or very athletic.

Gesicki is not powerful, but he is pretty athletic, and with a frame that is 6'6, with some more work in the weight room, he is fully capable to slow down defensive players.

Miami now has a star FB that can block very well, Gesicki does his job to slow down the defensive player, that is all that will be needed with a fully capable FB roaming back there to either pick up anyone slipping in, blocking for the ball carrier, or being that safety blanket receiver for the QB.

Gesicki never has good enough coaching to help him grow, but if he works hard enough with good coaching, he can be effective enough when needed to block, and can just do what he does best of catching passes when needed without any worries.
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
It's wait and see with Gesicki. Personally, I can't wait to see how McDaniel utilizes his talent. With defenses likely to focus on Hill and Waddle, Gesicki could have a huge year.

I'm also interested to see if Long emerges.

At some point, it's going to be hard to fit in all the young talent.
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Agreed. We have him this year and he's already a weapon in the passing game. If his blocking in this system is adequate then his value shoots up, but in terms of salary it's probably only a difference of a $1 or $2 mil/per. If he doesn't develop as a blocker then we let him go and hopefully get a nice comp pick for him the following year.
 
rooting for the guy but also have high hopes for Hunter Long this year.
 
The WR tag was around $18M and ecpected to jump to 20M+, not double but way too much.
I think they may be able to change his designation but who knows?
 
So Be said:
I did not know or would have never posted. Can you just delete it? I try to avoid dead horses.
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No need to delete it.

It's a good topic of conversation. Many things have happened recently that could change his status or people's opinions.

Hill, Mostert and Edmonds additions. McDaniel and his time in SF.

IF anything, maybe a merger with another thread.. But recent events make Gesicki a relevant topic again and changed things imo. It changed my perspective from a couple months ago.

I viewed him as a liability to an extent before draft and FA. I just supported him because of his overall support of Tua.

However, now, I truly believe he will Flourish and be a top 3 TE easily when he takes advantage of defenses focusing on Hill and Waddle. His "lack" of blocking amity is not a important to me now as it was 3 months ago.

Like Mach said, slow times. What else we got to talk about lol.
 
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