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Who are our top 5 players on offense and on defense for the first 8 games?

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We're not talking projections for the future. We're talking about who have been our top 5 players so far on offense and defense? Somebody did a thread after 3 games and Gesicki was on everybody's list mostly based on the good game he had against Buffalo. How things have changed since then. And of course anybody's list now could change by the end of the season.

Offense-
1-Tua, I said not projections but couldn't help myself here. Only two starts but Sunday he had the best game any of our players have had this year.
2- Parker
3- Sanders- yes he's a kicker but that's part of the offense and he's been awesome all year long
4-Davis- has played well at RT,LT and even RG while being one of the leaders of that offense
5-Karras- Has been the steadiest up front playing pretty much every snap and helping keep the O-line together.

Here's what this list tells me. We're really lacking skill players for the first 8 games. Williams has 4 TD's which is good but has only caught half his targets for 288 yards in 8 games. Grant has zero TD's on offense. Gesicki had 8 catches in one game. In his other 7 games he has 14 catches and only 2 TD's all year.
Stats don't always tell the whole story but that's pretty bad. I think most people would agree with need skill players in the off season and I mean early in the draft and maybe in free agency as well.

Defense- more to choose from here.

1-Ogbah
2-Howard
3-Van noy
4-Wilkins
5-Sisler/Baker

Ogbah at #1 and it's not even close imo. Howard has been burn a couple of times but he's made some big plays. Van Noy is one of the leaders and he's everywhere.
Wilkins brings more than given credit for. Baker leads the team in tackles(doesn't tell the whole story tho) so I put him up there and Sisler in quietly having a very good season.

I'm sure you guys will have different players on your list which is totally fine. This is just to see where posters viewed the team for the first 8 games and partly to see how far we have to go.
 
1-Tua, I said not projections but couldn't help myself here. Only two starts but Sunday he had the best game any of our players have had this year.

C'mon, man. I've been biting my tongue at the overexuberant posts, but I couldn't help myself here. You definitely are basing this on a projection.

A lot of Miami fans are just delusional right now, Claiming all of his passes were perfect, how he passed receivers open and how Miami would have lost with Fitzpatrick...

Yeah, Tua had a good game last week, but it was against a team without its best pass rusher and 2 of their starting CBs. Anyone remember far enough back to a game in which Fitz played against the same scenario? Do you playbook thumpers remember detracting from Fitz's 350 yard and 3 TD performance against the Niners, even with the offense going into protect mode in the second half? I know it was a month ago, but still.

As far as the perfect passes that are throwing receivers open, c'mon again. Most of those passes were the same placement as Fitz's. Yes, it was Tua's second start, and yes, he can and should get better.

I'm not saying to not be enthusiastic about our rookie QB; Yes, his play is promising, and yes, he hasn't thrown a pick yet... luckily. (he has fumbled though) Let's wait before fitting him for his jacket and having him pose for his bust just yet though.
 
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C'mon, man. I've been biting my tongue at the overexuberant posts, but I couldn't help myself here. You definitely are basing this on a projection.

A lot of Miami fans are just delusional right now, Claiming all of his passes were perfect, how he passed receivers open and how Miami would have lost with Fitzpatrick...

Yeah, Tua had a good game last week, but it was against a team without its best pass rusher and 2 of their starting CBs. Anyone remember far enough back to a game in which Fitz played against the same scenario? Do you playbook thumpers remember detracting from Fitz's 350 yard and 3 TD performance against the Niners, even with the offense going into protect mode in the second half? I know it was a month ago, but still.

As far as the perfect passes that are throwing receivers open, c'mon again. Most of those passes were the same placement as Fitz's. Yes, it was Tua's second start, and yes, he can and should get better.

I'm not saying to not be enthusiastic about our rookie QB; Yes, his play is promising, and yes, he hasn't thrown a pick yet... luckily. (he has fumbled though) Let's wait before fitting him for his jacket and having him pose for his bust just yet though.
Well, I have no defense for what you're saying. That's why I put the desclaimer saying "I couldn't help myself"......I agree Tua should not be on that list as he's only played two games but part of the reason(maybe the main reason) I did that was to show how far we still need to go on offense as far as play makers/skill position players. As you noticed I have two O-line guys on that short list. Take Tua away and what do we have left?
I do agree people are going a bit nuts about Tua. I guess is what happens when you haven't have a top QB since the Marino days.

Btw, I'd like to see your list.
 
Yeah, no one has really made a case for being an all-pro. Over the first half of the season, though, I'd probably go with Davis, Flowers, Karras, Parker and Williams on O.

On D, I'd go Ogbah, Jones, X, Wilkins and Rowe.
 
Eric rowe is moving up the best player on defense if he’s not already there

him x and ogbah in some order and significant gap to anything else
If he had + ball skills, he'd be talked about as an All Pro Safety. Took him a while to get it and to find a fit in the league, but he's an elite athlete hitting his stride as a pro.

I don't know if you remember, but I was really (like much too) high on Ogbah. I never stopped believing in him, as he continued to flash, but every time it seemed like he was going to put it together, something would happen - injuries or usage. It's awesome to see him realize a good chunk of his potential this year.

Obv agree that Tua and Parker are the clear best players on offense. Weapons are priority #1 for 2021.
 
Parker, Gaskins, Tua, Flowers, Kindley, but not in that order, I would have Solomon higher. Smythe is 6th
Ogbah, Rowe, X, McCain, Van Ginkel, with Roberts and rookie Brandon Jones coming on strong.
 
Offense:
Davis
Flowers
Karras
Parker
Sanders

Defense:
Howard
Jones
Rowe
Ogbah
Wilkins
 
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